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Tibetans shot at by Chinese reach India
Haveeru Daily ^ | Monday, October 23, 2006; 3:52 AM | Haveeru Daily

Posted on 10/23/2006 5:35:24 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick

KATHMANDU - Some 41 Tibetan refugees fired on by Chinese border guards last month as they entered Nepal have been flown to India, an official from the Tibetan Reception Centre in Kathmandu said Saturday.

"The 41 Tibetans refugees who arrived in Kathmandu left for New Delhi on Friday for security reasons," said an official at the Tibetan Reception Centre.

The official did not elaborate.

The Tibetans arrived in Kathmandu earlier this month after Chinese soldiers opened fire on a group of about 70 people, including children, women, monks and nuns, trying to flee into Nepal on September 30.

A nun was killed in the incident according to witnesses and foreign Tibetan groups.

The remaining Tibetans in the group of 70 were believed to have been detained by Chinese border guards. China confirmed the incident took place and said that the border troops were forced to act in self-defense after soldiers found the group trying to escape Tibet and were attacked.

Numerous foreign climbers witnessed the incident including a Romanian climber who filmed footage of a group of unarmed Tibetans being fired on as they tried to run away.

A monk who was part of the group told AFP that the Chinese border guards fired "indiscriminately" at the fleeing Tibetans.

Since 1989 Nepal's official policy has been that Tibetan refugees cannot stay in the country.

Sandwiched between regional giants India and China, Nepal pursues a cautious policy over the issue of people fleeing Chinese-controlled Tibet, directly to the north. The office of the representative of Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, was closed in Nepal's capital in 2005, but refugees continue to be transited through the Himalayan nation, often to the northern hill station of Dharamsala, where the Dalai Lama leads the Tibetan government-in-exile.

Tibetan refugees began arriving in Nepal in 1959 after the Dalai Lama fled Lhasa following an abortive uprising against Chinese rule. A year later Communist troops entered Tibet.

The Dalai Lama has in recent years urged greater autonomy from Beijing for his homeland.

Around 2,500 people a year make an often dangerous trip across the Himalayas into Nepal and India.

International rights groups accuse the Chinese of ruling Tibet through repression and military intimidation.


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To: Yang Taiyi
Thats preposterously funny! The Dalai Lama training terrorists, brainwashing kids! You're one brainwashed kid yourself 混蛋。 Try and explain why you can't access Wikipedia for example. In India where I and Dalai Lama live, we don't block websites like you do in China. Your government finds free speech and media access a hindrance to their efforts to keep YOU brainwashed. You're either misguided or you're trying to misguide us. Time to zot a troll I think.
61 posted on 10/29/2006 2:32:36 AM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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To: MimirsWell
Just so You all know:

The PRC is quietly subverting Buthan in the same way it subverted Tibet. For example they are contructing roads from Tibet through the mountain passes with Buthan, AND ACROSS THE TIBET BUTHAN BORDER, whenever the PRC feels like it.

Why?

So that military troops can infiltrate Buthan, establish a guerrilla movement in the North, and claim Buthan as a "Chinese" province. Buthan has unexploited natural reslurces and is an invasion gateway into the Indian subcontinent.

China is a slow moving Imperialist snake. Moving ever so slowly with a consistent Imperialist policy, it means to dominate India, and pressure India to quit its interference with China's client states, such as Pakistan.

The role of the West should be to interdict China's subversive activities, with the aid and cooperation of INdia. The alliance between INdia and the USA actually is driving the Chinese bonkers, as they realize they are running out of time to subvert Nepal and Buthan.

As far as I am concerned, PRC has no business being in either Tibet ar Buthan, or Nepal ( Red Guards).For those who think that PRC is not behind the suversive activities of the region, arms are being supplied now to guerrrillas in Southern Buthan, and Ladaak, by PRC's client states, wild card states, such as ancient Burma. Look at the arms! All made in China.

So while the Olympics of 2008 are being held, the PRC is with its other hand, subverting the Himalayan free nations, taking corporate control of the Panama Canal ( Enlarging it to allow bigger ships through to supply arms and produced goods to South America and the Carribean, as well as large startegic vessels, air craft carriers etc, now being built). Conquering the USA by usurping the US GNP, making the USA indebted to the PRC.

Secretly giving money and resources to the Democratic Party ( whose hate of Republicans now knows no bounds and is being exploited by China and the World Caliphate Movement) in the USA, to gain a weak national defence policy in the PAcific, the Carribean, and South America.

So when those free Chinese in the USA start packing up their Dim Sum restaurants, and heading for the high Rockies to make their homes, maybe some one will finally wake up.

62 posted on 10/29/2006 6:09:08 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: MimirsWell
I know exactly what he is. A PRC zombie.

It is amazing how sensitive the PRC is. Do you recall the incident early in Pres. Bush's presidency wherein a Chinese fighter plane clumsily hit one of our surveillance planes which was forced to land in China? I was posting some very inflammatory suggestions on FR at that time. If ya know what I mean!?! :^)

All of a sudden I started getting a huge volume of reports of probes looking for open ports on my computer. Normally I would get two or three probes a day from U.S. universities or private parties. I was using Zone Alarm's free firewall at that time and it had a feature then that allowed you to trace such probes. They were all coming from SE Asian IPs. Rather revealing.

How paranoid can you get? A major world power is worried about an unemployed carpenter in CO making ridiculously hyperbolic statements on the internet? LOL Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Just shows how weak the PRC really is.

63 posted on 10/29/2006 6:06:06 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: MimirsWell; Yang Taiyi

I hope he isn't zotted. Let him stay and display his ignorance. He makes good target practice for the average housewife or office worker who knows far more than a slave like him ever will.


64 posted on 10/29/2006 6:11:53 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: Yang Taiyi
Everything you are saying is complete nonsense. I have met and personally know some Tibetans who escaped the Communist Chinese occupation of Tibet in the early years. They are some of the freest thinking people I know and none of them blindly follow the Dalai Lama or anyone else.

In the west we know that you murdered over 1.5 million Tibetans in the first ten years. (1950-1960) We know that you still torture nuns and monks who dare to have even a picture of the Dalai Lama. We have first hand reports. We know, by the words of the people who escape occupied Tibet, that the Chinese are cruel and heartless towards Tibetans. They are ecstatic to be free of you and they freely choose whether to stay with the Tibetan community in exile in India or move to some other nation.

Of course they are limited economically after leaving with nothing from Tibet and need assistance. It is ignorant and cowardly to accuse the Dalai Lama of soliciting funds to brainwash refugees of your cruel regime when they are in need of food, clothes and medical attention after suffering at your hands. Those who survive the 17,000 ft snow covered passes and gauntlet of trigger happy PRCA thugs that is.

65 posted on 10/29/2006 6:47:16 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: Yang Taiyi

Look dude, you need to cut the crap a whole lot more than a little bit. You're trying to say China will become India's best friend if we give up Dalai Lama to PLA's torture chambers.

First, why should we do so? India has nothing to gain from closer political ties with Communist China, atleast nothing close to what we will gain from better ties with democratic America. You will still try to subvert and sabotage India's development because you see it as a threat to your own might in Asia and further. You want one Asian power and that has to be yourself. Sorry, not acceptable. Second, I'm not necessarily advocating a Free Tibet, I understand the economic burden on the global community should that happen. Atleast in the short-medium term, a free Tibet is not in regional or global interests. Free Tibetans will have very little to sustain themselves with and we will probably have E. Timor-II in Asia. But certainly, China can start with giving Tibetans greater religious freedoms, stop policing the monasteries and nunneries and improve its human rights record. Greater autonomy is not independence. How are you so sure that Dalai Lama wants independence when he has publicly backed off from that stance? Its just that you and your people are paranoid.

And don't tell me that the Koreans love you. They just hate the Japanese a bit more. Which reminds me, why is China so keen on preventing Korean reunification? Too paranoid of a new powerful neighbour i guess?


67 posted on 10/29/2006 8:58:37 PM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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To: Yang Taiyi
The 1.3 billion chinese are proud of their country,...

Tianamen Square.

69 posted on 10/29/2006 9:03:32 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: Yang Taiyi
China seizes and destroys over 600,000 guns

The PRC is afraid of its own people. China will descend into chaos at some point because it treats its own people as badly as it does Tibetans. Ask Falun Gong. Ask Chinese Christians. Ask Chinese farmers in the western provinces.

70 posted on 10/29/2006 9:09:34 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: jrg
Seems that we are only concerned with freeing those people who have oil. No freedom for Tibet, No freedom for any of the Africans in countries where they are killed by the thousands. The hypocrisy is glaring.

We did not invade Iraq to free the Iraqi people. We invaded Iraq to eliminate a perceived threat. A serious threat. The onus of proving Iraq was not a threat, lay with Saddam. Saddam did not live up to it, so Saddam is gone. The freedom of the Iraqi people is a happy byproduct of that effort.

71 posted on 10/29/2006 9:17:29 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Yang Taiyi

Perhaps you will find the courage to reply to me tomorrow, grasshopper. Or your masters will give you a reply to offer. It will fall short and you will look foolish. Again.


72 posted on 10/29/2006 9:28:12 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
"We did not invade Iraq to free the Iraqi people. We invaded Iraq to eliminate a perceived threat. A serious threat. The onus of proving Iraq was not a threat, lay with Saddam. Saddam did not live up to it, so Saddam is gone. The freedom of the Iraqi people is a happy byproduct of that effort. "

BUMP!

78 posted on 10/29/2006 11:01:35 PM PST by endthematrix ("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
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To: Yang Taiyi
That you dumb 傻瓜 was the most pathetic attempt to drive a wedge between India and its ally the US. WE ARE GOING TO BEAT YOU TOGETHER. India and the US WILL REMAIN ALLIES. Nothing you or your dumbnut bosses can do about it. Even if the nuke deal doesn't go through, India will stand by the US and vice versa. We are driven together by much more than money or weapons. We share values, a vision of a better and peaceful world without you f**king reptiles subvertng it to make it a slave of your greed. We will not allow the world to go through a "Long March" or a "Cultural Revolution" or a massacre like you did your own people.
79 posted on 10/30/2006 2:11:41 AM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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To: mass7; Gengis Khan; TigersEye; familyop; sukhoi-30mki; Admin Moderator

Looks like we have a couple of chicoms running amok :). Since they started the cursing game, can I run amok yet?


80 posted on 10/30/2006 2:18:53 AM PST by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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