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One Body, Many Political Views ("How Would Jesus Vote?" Seminar)
IRD ^ | Oct 06 | Ralph Webb

Posted on 10/20/2006 7:35:21 PM PDT by xzins

One Body, Many Political Views

Ralph Webb

On Thursday, October 3, a six-member panel participated in a forum seeking to address the question, "How Would Jesus Vote?" The nearly two-and-a-half hour evening discussion was co-sponsored by Advance Church of Silver Spring, MD, and the Skinner Leadership Institute (SLI). The forum was held in Washington, DC, and was moderated by Dr. Barbara Williams-Skinner, President of SLI.

The six speakers represented a variety of Christian churches and denominations. They were: the Rev. Bruce Clark, pastor of Advance Church and forum organizer; the Rev. Richard Cizik, Vice President for Governmental Affairs of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE); Bishop Harry Jackson, senior pastor of Hope Christian Church in Bowie, MD;  the Rev. Jeff Carr, Chief Operating Officer of Sojourners and Call to Renewal; Mrs. Janet Parshall, host of Janet Parshall's America, a nationally-syndicated radio talk show on the Salem Radio Network; and the Hon. Walter Fauntroy, former congressman and current pastor of New Bethel Baptist Church in Washington, DC.


According to National Council of Churches' Vice President for Governmental Affairs, Rich Cizik, "The two political parties both have a blind spot … [t]he Republican Party's blind spot is race, and the Democratic Party's blind spot is abortion." (File Photo)

The first part of the forum focused on prepared questions read to the panelists by Dr. Williams-Skinner. These questions ranged from broader concerns (e.g., "Is it possible for a person to be a Christian and not be involved in social justice?") to specific issues (e.g., "How do we defeat terrorism … without the kind of preemptive war we find in Iraq?"). They were addressed to the panel as a whole. The second part of the forum focused on answering questions from the audience. For time's sake, each of these questions was assigned to one panelist, although occasionally other panelists responded as well.

No single answer could be found to the questions raised by the forum. On each topic, the panelists displayed quite different viewpoints. Moreover, sometimes their political differences revealed sharp theological differences.

The War in Iraq
Perhaps no single issue better illustrated these divisions than that of how to defeat terrorism. Fauntroy, Parshall, and Clark all rooted their responses in a theology of sin, but came to quite different conclusions:

  • Fauntroy discussed the problem of sin by citing the biblical book of Exodus. His quip that "Moses as lawgiver didn't give 10 suggestions" drew much laughter from the crowd.
     

  • Parshall argued that government was created in response to sin, after the fall of humanity. She defended government's role in standing against evil, basing her convictions on the apostle Paul's words in chapter 13 of his letter to the Romans.
     

  • Clark called upon the church to address the sinfulness of each individual. If national leaders do not comprehend their own sinfulness, they will lead us into war, he warned. (It was clear from the context that Clark was talking about the leaders of any nation, not just the United States.)

Cizik took a very different tack by pointing out the need to elect leaders who understand religion. He contended that the current conflict on the religious end is not one of Christianity vs. Islam, but one of divisions within Islam itself. He also related how some believe that evangelicals' eschatology influenced the Bush administration to start the war. Cizik responded, "It wasn't the evangelicals who pushed [the war in Iraq] so much as the neocons," and argued that President Bush was motivated by concern for America as opposed to eschatology. Cizik stressed his support for the President even while admitting to disappointment at the lack of planning that went into the war.

Moral Issues
One audience member stated that two major moral issues, same-sex marriage and abortion, dominated the 2004 election, but there are many more issues with which Christians should be concerned. Given the plethora and magnitude of these issues, how can Christians broaden their concerns and address all of them?

Carr argued that Christians need a broad sense of values representative of the Gospel. He criticized evangelicals for placing so much attention on a small number of issues and allegedly having little concern for other issues, including the recent Mark Foley affair. 

In contrast, Parshall contended that marriage and abortion are fundamental moral issues. She lamented the Democratic Party's ignorance or rejection of evangelical successes, such as the lower prison recidivism rates for those who have gone through Christian rehabilitation programs.

Cizik said that evangelicals tend to put new issues on their radar screens only when their leaders speak out on issues. To get evangelicals involved, there must be a movement at the leadership level.

Fauntroy cautioned listeners to judge people not on their words, but their actions. He noted that you don't have to be an evangelical to know that pressures on the family affect society.  

Population Control and the Environment
Another audience member queried how Christians should respond to the argument that overpopulation is placing a strain on the environment. In response, Cizik declared that he was "appalled at being … attacked" recently on this issue by some evangelicals and groups such as the IRD.

(A recent paper by IRD President James Tonkowich and Acton Institute fellow Jay Richards noted that the Evangelical Climate Initiative (ECI) against global warming received major funding from the Hewlett Foundation, which links its support for environmental causes to its promotion of unrestricted abortion and other population control measures. Tonkowich and Richards warned that this funding relationship "inadvertently gives cover to population control and pro-abortion causes that evangelicals have historically opposed." They quoted Cizik as having told a World Bank audience: "We [evangelicals] need to confront population control and we can-we're not Roman Catholics after all—but it's too hot to handle now.")

The NAE leader emphatically stated that his views on this issue have been on record and have not changed. He opposes abortion as a means of population control and rejects the notion that people are the problem, as some environmentalists believe.

In apparent explanation of his remarks to the World Bank audience, Cizik called for greater discussion among evangelicals about population issues, particularly those relating to contraception. "[Some] of us … thought that there was always a population control method called contraception," he explained. While some evangelicals oppose the use of contraception, Cizik himself does not share those reservations. He asserted that in the Third World, contraception is viewed "as a means [by which] to overcome fertility issues." Solutions to this issue are difficult to find, Cizik said, but evangelicals should engage the population control lobby: "If you believe as I believe, that population is not the problem, [then] the question we have to address, it seems to me, is this: Are some contraceptive programs being used in ways we would not agree with as evangelicals?"

Like Cizik, Fauntroy admitted that he didn't have a solution to the population control issue. He admitted that it is easier to know what is not an option for Christians (e.g., abortion, perhaps contraception) than what is an option.

Carr argued that the environment is today's "moon shot" issue. He worried, however, that it may get overlooked by Christians.

Religion and Politics
Should religion be used as a political strategy? The panel was divided on this issue. Carr and Parshall questioned whether there was such a strategy, while Cizik stressed the need for wisdom in applying religion to fields such as politics. To obtain such wisdom, Cizik urged, Christians must be knowledgeable of both political issues and related biblical principles.

Jackson asserted that there were many people on the left who wouldn't have a platform were it not for the work that the Moral Majority and other conservative Christian groups had done several decades ago. He asked all in attendance to pray for the Democratic Party to change its course on homosexual issues, and to pray for the Republican Party to be delivered from its "mercenary orientation."

Government and Social Justice
In response to a query concerning the biblical role of government, Cizik affirmed that evangelicals have very different views on this issue. Admitting that coming to consensus on this issue was difficult, he said that Christians must choose between competing views of government.

Each panelist expressed misgivings regarding social justice issues at various points in the evening:

  • Clark noted that African-American Christians generally are solidly on the conservative side of abortion and same-sex marriage issues. However, he was concerned that those issues attract money from donors, while other important topics such as prison reform do not.
     

  • Cizik observed, "The two political parties both have a blind spot … [t]he Republican Party's blind spot is race, and the Democratic Party's blind spot is abortion."
     

  • Jackson argued that "We live in a Christian nation that has wandered far from Christian morals."
     

  • Carr feared that too many Christians too narrowly focus on a limited set of issues, namely same-sex marriage and abortion.
     

  • Parshall fervently summarized the message of the Gospel and strongly expressed her conviction that Christians' responses to any issue should be rooted and grounded in that message.
     

  • Fauntroy lamented that 70 percent of America's jail cells are filled with the 10 percent of the people who come from the poorest sections of the country. He also spoke of the dangers of poverty.

A United Stand?
The final question posed to the panel by Dr. Williams-Skinner concerned unity among Christians: How can we agree on all of these issues and together present a united front?

Fauntroy saw one issue as paramount: Christians need to focus on the poor, "the least of these." The United States should stop "wasting money" on other programs, he insisted. Fauntroy seemed to see those non-poverty programs as unrelated to the Christian's main calling: to show a sacrificial love for one's neighbor.

Others disagreed. Parshall again emphasized the apostle Paul's words concerning government's purpose in defending law-abiding citizens against evildoers who would harm them. Jackson declared that Christians need to be concerned with everything the Bible says and emphasized Christian understandings of righteousness and justice. Cizik called for greater participation by Christians in the political realm. 

Even with the diverse views represented on the panel, all the panelists could agree on at least one thing: even while there would always be a diversity of opinions regarding how Jesus would vote, Christians should be knowledgeable of current issues and vote based upon that understanding.



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1 posted on 10/20/2006 7:35:23 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Jesus, being the King of kings and Lord of lords, is a royalist. How He would vote is, therefore, not particularly relevant.


2 posted on 10/20/2006 7:36:59 PM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and boy, is He one unhappy camper. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: RichInOC

DITTO that, He will not come back as a humble child.


3 posted on 10/20/2006 7:38:22 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: xzins
Cizik observed, "The two political parties both have a blind spot … [t]he Republican Party's blind spot is race, and the Democratic Party's blind spot is abortion."

How about the Republicans' blind spot is immigration and the Democrats' blind spot is logic?
4 posted on 10/20/2006 7:41:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: xzins
non-poverty programs as unrelated to the Christian's main calling

SOCIAL GOSPEL ALERT!

5 posted on 10/20/2006 7:43:40 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: xzins

Those who are not in Christ are not held accountable in the same way before God. It is true all who don't profess Jesus will go to Hell, but while here on Earth, they are not required to follow Him.


6 posted on 10/20/2006 7:44:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: xzins
Fauntroy lamented...He also spoke of the dangers of poverty.

I agree. We need to stop Mexico from exporting so much of it to the U.S.

7 posted on 10/20/2006 7:45:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Today We FREEP! Tomorrow We Vote!")
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To: xzins
t]he Republican Party's blind spot is race

All races are welcome in the Republican Party...just some races and ethnic groups prefer to believe that the Democrats actually give a damn about them outside of election time.
8 posted on 10/20/2006 7:48:58 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: xzins

He would vote for Himself.


9 posted on 10/20/2006 7:49:08 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: xzins

Who would Mo' vote for?


10 posted on 10/20/2006 7:51:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Cizik's comments made me think he either was ignorant of the Republican Party or that he was a democrat.

There is no way that the Republican Party's blind spot is race. It is the Republican Party that has advanced civil rights since the election of Abraham Lincoln.

The dems have promoted: slavery, jim crow, literacy tests, separate but equal, george wallace, kkk, welfare, and tokenism.

The Republicans have the most minorities in the most significant positions in the history of this nation.


11 posted on 10/20/2006 7:54:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
"Even with the diverse views represented on the panel, all the panelists could agree on at least one thing: even while there would always be a diversity of opinions regarding how Jesus would vote, Christians should be knowledgeable of current issues and vote based upon that understanding."

Christians should make sure they know Christ. Then, learn about issues and events and vote based upon how the former Truth affects the latter truths.

12 posted on 10/20/2006 7:55:48 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: xzins
Christians should eschew forcing biblical morality on the wider population using the democratic process. Christianity is a choice, freely made by those who choose to follow Christ. To expect those that haven't made that same choice to live as if they have is unfair to the unsaved. The unsaved should not be forced to live as if they are saved, that is a sham morality.

To put it another way, Christians are supposed to lead the unsaved to the Path of Light (by living and preaching the Gospel), and not use the police powers of the state to force the unsaved onto that Path.

13 posted on 10/20/2006 7:56:12 PM PDT by Unknown Pundit
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To: xzins

Jesus would vote that you take all your money and give it to poor people. IOW Jesus would vote Democrat.


14 posted on 10/20/2006 7:56:50 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: xzins
"One Body, Many Political Views ("How Would Jesus Vote?" Seminar)"

Jesus wouldn't vote. He is the Almighty Lord, Creator of the universe, so what would He care about a human political party? Anyway, as corrupt as Washington D.C. is today, Jesus would probably send a tornado over that place before He'd vote for anyone there.

15 posted on 10/20/2006 8:04:42 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: gcruse
"Jesus would vote that you take all your money and give it to poor people. IOW Jesus would vote Democrat."

Way off base. Voting Democrat would mean that Jesus would forcibly take all your money himself and redistribute it to poor people - something he never did although he could have.

16 posted on 10/20/2006 8:04:47 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: boomop1
He is who He is...He is both Royal and Humble at the same time.

He is the The Servant King...and we must be servants to follow Him.

BTW, before I get any flames...what He serves (and we must also) is Righteousness and Holiness(which is Himself).

He said it all when He said...

Mat 22:37

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38
This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39

And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

17 posted on 10/20/2006 8:06:26 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: xzins

I am not sure how Jesus would vote, but I am pretty sure he wouldnt vote for anyone who would kill one of his children by sucking its brains nor would he vote for any advocate of such a horrible operation.


18 posted on 10/20/2006 8:06:54 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: TheCrusader; P-Marlowe
send a tornado

I don't think you're gettin' into the spirit of the discussion, TC.

Just imagine the Lord walking into the polling booth and punching that chad: What criteria would he use?

19 posted on 10/20/2006 8:08:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: joebuck
Voting Democrat would mean that Jesus would forcibly take all your money himself and redistribute it to poor people - something he never did although he could have.

While I certainly agree with you, you do realize that the welfare state was sold to voters as the "Christian thing to do" for those on the lower rungs of the economic ladder. Christians overwheliming supported these policies as they were debated and enacted. Many Chistians still do.

20 posted on 10/20/2006 8:11:22 PM PDT by Unknown Pundit
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