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FRANCE: Why 112 cars are burning every day
The Times ^ | October 21, 2006 | Charles Bremner

Posted on 10/20/2006 4:10:20 PM PDT by MadIvan

A year after the Paris riots violence and despair remain endemic in the rundown suburbs

FLAMES lick around a burning car on a tiny telephone screen. Omar, 17, a veteran of France’s suburban riots, replayed the sequence with pride. “It was great. We did lots of them and then we went out and torched more the next day.”

Omar, whose parents immigrated from Mali, was savouring memories of the revolt that erupted 12 months ago from his home, the Chêne Pointu estate in Clichy-sous-Bois, in the eastern outskirts of Paris. “We’re ready for it again. In fact it hasn’t stopped,” he added.

Before next week’s anniversary of the Clichy riots, the violence and despair on the estates are again to the fore. Despite a promised renaissance, little has changed, and the lid could blow at any moment.

The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.

“The thing that has changed over the past month is that they now want to kill us,” said Bruno Beschizza, the leader of Synergie, a union to which 40 per cent of officers belong. Action Police, a hardline union, said: “We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.”

Car-burning has become so routine on the estates that it has been eclipsed in news coverage by the violence against police. Sebastian Roche, a sociologist who has published a book on the riots, said that torching a vehicle had become a standard amusement. “There is an apprenticeship of destruction. Kids learn where the petrol tank is, how to make a petrol bomb,” he told The Times.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the Interior Minister who hopes to win the presidency next May, has once again taken the offensive, staging raids on the no-go areas and promising no mercy for the thugs who reign there.

With polls showing law and order as the top public concern, his presidential chances hang on his image as a tough cop.

M Sarkozy’s muscular approach is being challenged not just by Socialist opponents. President Chirac and Dominique de Villepin, his Prime Minister, are waging their own, softer, campaign to undermine the colleague whom they do not want to be president. M de Villepin called in community leaders this week and promised to accelerate hundreds of millions of pounds of measures that were promised last autumn to relieve the plight of the immigrant-dominated suburbs.

National politics seem far from Clichy, a leafy town of hulking apartment buildings only ten miles but a universe away from the Elysée Palace. However, the Interior Minister is cited by the estate youths as the symbol of their anger. “Sarko wants to wipe us out, clear us off the map,” said Rachid, 19. “They said they would help us after last year, but we’ve got nothing.”

Rachid is to attend a march next Friday for Zyed and Bouna, the teenagers whose deaths in an electrical station sparked the rioting that engulfed the Seine-Saint-Denis département, known from its registration number, 93, as le Neuf-Trois. The boys, aged 17 and 15, who were hiding from police when they were electrocuted, are seen in Clichy as martyrs. Amor Benna, 61, the Tunisian father of Zyed, appealed this week to the young to refrain from violence and use their votes for change. “I don’t want to see cars burning again,” he said from his home on the Chêne Pointu estate. But the unhappiness was understandable, said M Benna, a street cleaner. “The young were born here and they are French. But they have nothing. The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: changedirection; doyousmellsmoke; enemywithin; eurabia; fifthcolumn; france; islam; jihad; muslims; quagmire; religionofpeace; rioting; rop; schadenfreude; swine; theregoesmybus
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To: MadIvan

Rats! Sarko is probably France's best hope.


61 posted on 10/20/2006 5:25:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

It wasn't NYU but another NYC university ...




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62 posted on 10/20/2006 5:39:23 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: My2Cents

That's A car? - it's even a BAD lawn ornament, Be that as it may be... French History will be written Arabic


63 posted on 10/20/2006 5:45:53 PM PDT by rusureitflies?
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To: MadIvan

Ivan, I'm just curious...I know the French by and large are pretty gutless and cowardly but I wonder what kind of gun control laws they have there. I mean, heh...it seems to me one or two of these assho!es has shots fired at 'em for destroying someone else's property, word gets around and PRESTO! no more problem.


64 posted on 10/20/2006 5:46:09 PM PDT by blake6900 (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: MadIvan
Wow! The media is sure on top of things. This should be on the front page.
65 posted on 10/20/2006 6:00:03 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: MadIvan
I'll all for showing contempt for French automobiles

The Peugeot 504, while a bit underpowered, was a fine vehicle. It had the most comfortable seats imaginable, and the suspension was top notch. Had great success in African rallys as well.

66 posted on 10/20/2006 6:00:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: MadIvan

Cool, France is slipping into civil war!


67 posted on 10/20/2006 6:18:50 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: melt
Image hosted by Photobucket.com sh!t, i figgured you prolly couldn't even buy it there... 8^)
68 posted on 10/20/2006 6:29:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: dsc
If they were suitable employees, they'd have work.

Car torching and Islamic radicalism look great on a resume.

69 posted on 10/20/2006 6:40:23 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: MadIvan

Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year

Did the police officers crack 3000 skulls in retaliation?


70 posted on 10/20/2006 6:54:40 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: winner3000

It is a. QUAGMIRE.


71 posted on 10/20/2006 6:56:29 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: denydenydeny

Announce the End of the Dole. Erect netting. Toss over mob. Helicopter lift to nearest sand dune. Problem solved.


72 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:29 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: MadIvan
[ “The young were born here and they are French. But they have nothing. The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.” ]

Socialism does Not Work...
Socialism is Slavery by Giverment..
It started out that way and will end up that way..

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We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.~Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

"How do you tell a Socialist:- It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-Socialist someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Reagan

73 posted on 10/20/2006 7:10:04 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: MadIvan

They are still burning car? Where is CBS?


74 posted on 10/20/2006 7:11:04 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: r9etb

Lucas, the inventor of the three postion switch?


Sizzle, Sputter, and Ignite!


75 posted on 10/20/2006 7:12:19 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: MadIvan

France, LOL!!! Helpless, hopeless little France.


76 posted on 10/20/2006 7:12:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: LasVegasMac

The French did a great job under foreign leadership.

Like under Napoleon (who was Corsican/Italian) and under Charlemagne or Charles Martel (German).


77 posted on 10/20/2006 7:13:38 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: MadIvan
These spirited "youths" better watch out that some nasty French terrorists don't stop their fun by strategically placing several cars filled with dynamite in the Muslim areas.
78 posted on 10/20/2006 7:14:32 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: My2Cents

I always called those cars sardine cans because of the way that rag top roof rolled back!


79 posted on 10/20/2006 7:18:25 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The DNC - Marxist Party of America for Socialists, Commies, and Homosexuals!)
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To: river rat
Suppress them.....IncarcerateIncinerate or deport them....

Fixed it.

L

80 posted on 10/20/2006 7:24:58 PM PDT by Lurker (He just sat there biting, the heads off whippets...)
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