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FRANCE: Why 112 cars are burning every day
The Times ^ | October 21, 2006 | Charles Bremner

Posted on 10/20/2006 4:10:20 PM PDT by MadIvan

A year after the Paris riots violence and despair remain endemic in the rundown suburbs

FLAMES lick around a burning car on a tiny telephone screen. Omar, 17, a veteran of France’s suburban riots, replayed the sequence with pride. “It was great. We did lots of them and then we went out and torched more the next day.”

Omar, whose parents immigrated from Mali, was savouring memories of the revolt that erupted 12 months ago from his home, the Chêne Pointu estate in Clichy-sous-Bois, in the eastern outskirts of Paris. “We’re ready for it again. In fact it hasn’t stopped,” he added.

Before next week’s anniversary of the Clichy riots, the violence and despair on the estates are again to the fore. Despite a promised renaissance, little has changed, and the lid could blow at any moment.

The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.

“The thing that has changed over the past month is that they now want to kill us,” said Bruno Beschizza, the leader of Synergie, a union to which 40 per cent of officers belong. Action Police, a hardline union, said: “We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.”

Car-burning has become so routine on the estates that it has been eclipsed in news coverage by the violence against police. Sebastian Roche, a sociologist who has published a book on the riots, said that torching a vehicle had become a standard amusement. “There is an apprenticeship of destruction. Kids learn where the petrol tank is, how to make a petrol bomb,” he told The Times.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the Interior Minister who hopes to win the presidency next May, has once again taken the offensive, staging raids on the no-go areas and promising no mercy for the thugs who reign there.

With polls showing law and order as the top public concern, his presidential chances hang on his image as a tough cop.

M Sarkozy’s muscular approach is being challenged not just by Socialist opponents. President Chirac and Dominique de Villepin, his Prime Minister, are waging their own, softer, campaign to undermine the colleague whom they do not want to be president. M de Villepin called in community leaders this week and promised to accelerate hundreds of millions of pounds of measures that were promised last autumn to relieve the plight of the immigrant-dominated suburbs.

National politics seem far from Clichy, a leafy town of hulking apartment buildings only ten miles but a universe away from the Elysée Palace. However, the Interior Minister is cited by the estate youths as the symbol of their anger. “Sarko wants to wipe us out, clear us off the map,” said Rachid, 19. “They said they would help us after last year, but we’ve got nothing.”

Rachid is to attend a march next Friday for Zyed and Bouna, the teenagers whose deaths in an electrical station sparked the rioting that engulfed the Seine-Saint-Denis département, known from its registration number, 93, as le Neuf-Trois. The boys, aged 17 and 15, who were hiding from police when they were electrocuted, are seen in Clichy as martyrs. Amor Benna, 61, the Tunisian father of Zyed, appealed this week to the young to refrain from violence and use their votes for change. “I don’t want to see cars burning again,” he said from his home on the Chêne Pointu estate. But the unhappiness was understandable, said M Benna, a street cleaner. “The young were born here and they are French. But they have nothing. The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: changedirection; doyousmellsmoke; enemywithin; eurabia; fifthcolumn; france; islam; jihad; muslims; quagmire; religionofpeace; rioting; rop; schadenfreude; swine; theregoesmybus
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I'll all for showing contempt for French automobiles; but as that's not the point, to hell with them. Send in the riot police and knock them flat.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/20/2006 4:10:22 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/20/2006 4:10:37 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
The fact that they are in Paris doesn't mean they act like non muslims.
3 posted on 10/20/2006 4:12:14 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: MadIvan

The French don't realize they're at war.


4 posted on 10/20/2006 4:13:12 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: MadIvan
FRANCE: Why 112 cars are burning every day

Ummmmmmmmmmmm..............Muslims?

5 posted on 10/20/2006 4:13:50 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: MadIvan

Does Lucas have a French subsidiary?


6 posted on 10/20/2006 4:13:56 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: MadIvan
Here's an improvement.

FRANCE: Why only 112 cars are burning every day


7 posted on 10/20/2006 4:14:11 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: All
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert )
Click the picture:


8 posted on 10/20/2006 4:15:22 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: MadIvan
The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.

Right. Everytime I've been laid off I riot and torch cars. What else is there to do?

9 posted on 10/20/2006 4:15:27 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: MadIvan
Action Police, a hardline union, said: “We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.”

Hmm. These guys had better get with the program, or they'll be arrested for using hateful language.

Only, who will arrest them? Monsieur Villepain?

10 posted on 10/20/2006 4:16:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MadIvan

The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year.

Incredible.


11 posted on 10/20/2006 4:17:11 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: MadIvan
112 cars times 365 days per year = 40,880 torched cars per year.

Is this good or bad for the automobile manufacturers? I would assume the insurance companies are in shock, tho. Where do they transport and store these burnt vehicles?

12 posted on 10/20/2006 4:17:30 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: MadIvan

Sounds like it would be good for the automobile industry, though.

Sort of like hurricanes being good for the construction industry.


13 posted on 10/20/2006 4:18:03 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MadIvan
Image hosted by Photobucket.com The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September.

kinda sounds like Bagdad without the IEDs...

14 posted on 10/20/2006 4:18:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: BlessedBeGod
I'm not so sure. The average French citizen is in the same position we Americans are in: We're sick to death of radical Islamists and want to put a boot up their ass, but our politicians and bureacrats keep paying lip service to how a wonderfully beautiful religion has been hijacked by evildoers.

Is that not the case, or did I not just see where a Koran found floating in a toilet at NYU is being investigated as a 'hate crime'?

NYU is in New York City where the WTC used to stand, not Paris, by the way.

15 posted on 10/20/2006 4:18:43 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Brilliant

You are Brilliant


16 posted on 10/20/2006 4:18:47 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: MadIvan
"Chirac and Dominique de Villepin, his Prime Minister, are waging their own, softer, campaign to undermine the colleague whom they do not want to be president. M de Villepin called in community leaders this week and promised to accelerate hundreds of millions of pounds of measures that were promised...

Far left treachery. Are the people there even aware of what's going on? Where did the vigilantes go?

17 posted on 10/20/2006 4:18:55 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: MadIvan
OHHHHH...so THATS's how the France "youth" problem was resolved: the French/Muslim-friendly media just stopped telling us about it!

Doesn't surprise me though...too many anti-American stories needed to be told for them to care about something as trivial as the Islamic takeover of France.
18 posted on 10/20/2006 4:19:08 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: MadIvan
“They said they would help us after last year, but we’ve got nothing.”

Thugs and murderers always have the entitlement mentality.

19 posted on 10/20/2006 4:19:16 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: MadIvan

I should have torched my '62 Renault Dauphin - instead after 3 motors I just walked away after it blew again - definately one of the worst cars manufactured ever. Someone once told me there was a autoworkers strike that year and the Dauphin was assembled by management `


20 posted on 10/20/2006 4:19:44 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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