Did we plough up the Garden of Eden?

First Post ^ | October 17, 2006

[maryz]

Thanks!

[From many - one.]

In fact a fair number of buglies are considered special treats and are not all that different from eating shrims, crawdads, calmari and the like.

White Oak acorns are sweet, and in North America there are also Beech nuts, black walnuts, butternuts etc..

Generally gatherers spend less time on survival than farmers.

[Dustbunny]

What a great find. Doubt it is Eden.

[Interesting Times]

Ping.

[satchmodog9]

That the erosion on the Sphinx is from water erosion instead of wind. It is interesting and it would bring a lot of history into question.

[Radix]

"For instance this find indicates a culture which was rooted to a specific geographical location for generations. How did they do that? Did they already have agriculture back then? Was the cresent so fertile that generations of people could live in one spot, gathering and hunting with no effort to replenish and not pick it clean?"

 

One possible reason is that indigenous to the region were 56 different varieties of wild grasses

 

Google that item and you might learn about the classification of "Wheat" as one of those.....

 

I did some googling for this post.

 

Grasses

 

Armenia

 

Even Wickedpedia has info on  Genetically modified food which might be of interest.

 

Google has lots more.

 

I enjoyed this book some while ago that is still available at least at my local Waldenbooks store.

 

 

[MEGoody]

The archaeologist in charge of the dig believes that this artwork once stood in Eden.

I wasn't aware that Adam and Eve had time to sculpt anything before they were driven out of the garden.

[tomzz]

Eden was close to the Afar triangle in Africa across from Yemen. The main city is called Aden to this day.

[Vicomte13]

"In fact a fair number of buglies are considered special treats and are not all that different from eating shrims, crawdads, calmari and the like."

Different enough.

"White Oak acorns are sweet..."

Not that sweet.
And only if you cook them, which is hard to do if you're really in a survival situation. Lighting a fire without matches is hard hard hard. Freeze-to-death-before-you-succeed hard.

"Generally gatherers spend less time on survival than farmers"

And less time on Earth too.

[Radix]

I did a search on Strongs for a single mention of Iraq in the KJV!

Results were zero. What was Iraq called (aka) back in your Bible?

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/i/1161114315-999.html

[Fraxinus]

Hold on a minute. Hunter-gatherers are inherently nomadic. They go where the food is. How could they build a temple of stone anywhere, and what good would it be since they couldn't expect to be in proximity to it much of the time?

I disagree with you it would be quite possible for Hunters to build a temple, and use it on a regular basis. Most nomads travel a circuit that is set by tradition, thus they would visit the site on a yearly or more frequent basis. How many people only show up for services on the high holy days?

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Anyone who has ever gone hunting knows that it would be a rigorous lifestyle if you had to live off of your kill.

If you could live off of "the one that got away," we'd never would've needed to invent farming :)

[blam]

That is a conclusion by Professor Robert Schoch that the Sphinx is much older that originally thought, he says about 9,000 years old.

"In 1990, Robert Schoch, a scientist and tenured university professor, traveled to Egypt and conducted geological testing to evaluate the accepted date for the construction of the Great Sphinx of Giza. His research revealed that the Sphinx is actually thousands of years older than previously supposed, a discovery that upended the standard history of ancient Egypt."

[maryz]

Thanks!

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

IMO Not Eden, but a great archaeological find/discovery/dig. hope to hear more info coming out of here.

[shield]

Kashmir...most likely where the 'Garden of Eden' was located.

The tree of knowledge, is it still there? If so are the Angels still on guard not allowing anyone to enter in?

[MaineVoter2002]

Eden's in Iraq

Exactly

[blam]

"Thanks, Blam. S.E. Asia would truly have been a paradise back then, as the Northern Hemisphere was recovering from the last glacial period."

Professor Stephen Oppenheimer's idea from his book: Eden In The East An excellent 560 page read.

" In an exhaustively researched and creatively argued reassessment of mankind's origins, British physician Oppenheimer, an expert in tropical pediatrics, contends that the now-submerged area of Southeast Asia was the cradle of ancient civilization. From time to time, scholars from various disciplines have argued for the existence of a vastly old ``founder civilization.'' Among the most famous was Charles Hapgood, who based his theory of a lost seafaring civilization on his analysis of the famous 16th-century ``Piri Re'is'' maps of the Antarctic land mass. In this tradition, Oppenheimer blends evidence from geology, genetics, linguistics, archaeology, and anthropology to argue persuasively that such a civilization existed on a submerged land mass in Southeast Asia, which geologists call the Sunda shelf. Pointing to geological evidence for the submersion of the shelf by abrupt rises in the sea level about 8,000 years ago, Oppenheimer contends that the coastal cultures of Southeast Asia were drowned by a great flood, reflected in flood mythologies scattered from the ancient Middle East (such as the biblical story of Noah) to Australia and the Americas. According to the author, tantalizing archaeological evidence exists of settlements under a ``silt curtain'' left by the sea floods in drowned coastal regions from Southeast Asia to the Middle East, while linguistic markers indicate that languages spread from Southeast Asia to Australia and the Pacific. The shared flood story is one striking example of similar Eurasian myths according to the author; the ancient Middle East and Asia share other myth typologies, conspicuously including creation and Cain and Abel myths, which point to common origins in a progenitor culture. Absorbing, meticulously researched, limpidly written, and authoritative: should be regarded as a groundbreaking study of the remote past of Southeast Asia, and of civilization itself."

[CobaltBlue]

Anyone who has ever gone hunting knows that it would be a rigorous lifestyle if you had to live off of your kill.

Back when the earth's population was low, there were more animals around. You should read what the Europeans who discovered North America say about the profusion of wild game and fish.

Also, hunter-gatherer types are pooped out old grandfathers at death's door by the time they reach 30. All that excess energy kids have? Among hunter-gatherers, they use it to get food.

[dimeadozen]

Come on, everyone knows eden is in Missouri!