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Foley: The Final Straw
Time ^ | October 7, 2006 | Frank Luntz

Posted on 10/08/2006 5:27:03 PM PDT by quidnunc

Had enough?

America has. Anyone who reads the polls accurately and honestly will acknowledge that the Republican Party is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives, the so-called "People's House." The Democrats maintained control for 40 years. The Republicans, just 12.

What went wrong? Why do Democrats finally appear to be heading toward electoral success and Republicans back into the political wilderness? In a word, fatigue. Americans are tired of the war, tired of watching illegal aliens race across our unguarded borders, tired of high energy costs, tired of wasteful Washington spending, and tired of story after story of political corruption and misbehavior.

As a pollster, my job is to tap the public mood. As a linguist, my efforts are focused on the words of the electorate and how best to communicate a set of priorities and principles. For the past three months, in focus groups literally from coast to coast — and a dozen states in between — I have heard the constant grumblings of Republicans that their party didn't do enough to follow through on their promises and the anger of Democrats who felt the G.O.P. went too far. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

And the language voters now use to describe Congress can only be heard after nasty divorce settlements and in the subways of New York. I've had voters spit on me as they emphasize the "d" in "do nothing" and the "c" in "corrupt."

Who can blame them? The Republican Party of 2006 is a tired, cranky shell of the aggressive, reformist movement that was swept into office in 1994 on a wave of positive change. I knew those Republicans. I worked for them. They were friends of mine. These Republicans are not those Republicans.

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To: Miss Marple

GMTA! :-)


361 posted on 10/09/2006 5:10:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: quidnunc
When reformers such as Representative Mike Pence and Senator Tom Coburn are shunted aside then a housecleaning is in order.

Handing the reins of power to Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank is hardly a housecleaning ...

It is like turning your child over to a pimp because she did not do all her homework.

If you hate your children or the Republic of the United States I guess you would see it as a housecleaning.

362 posted on 10/09/2006 5:13:31 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: no dems
If the Dems take control

What a defeatist attitude. Doesn't sound like a conservative stance to me.
363 posted on 10/09/2006 6:40:59 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: quidnunc

Hey...it's TIME......you forgot to add the BARF Alert!


364 posted on 10/09/2006 6:42:32 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Volunteer Now...to get out the GOP Vote.......or the Dems will be in charge! Yikes!)
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To: quidnunc

More pre-election bull sh*t...


365 posted on 10/09/2006 6:43:52 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: thoughtomator
Homosexuality is never acceptable, period. Leviticus 18:22

And Foley resigned. Now, sin is sin - who do you know that is sinless that can put their name on a ballot?
366 posted on 10/09/2006 6:45:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: quidnunc
Why do Democrats finally appear to be heading toward electoral success and Republicans back into the political wilderness?

Wishful Thinking...

367 posted on 10/09/2006 6:56:17 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: quidnunc

I really think the final straw will ACTUALLY be the signing of the Port Security Bill. It won't be the final straw for many conservative voters. It will however be the deciding factor for many fence-sitters due to the bill's anti-gambling rider. I myself am guilty of playing online poker for money, and have curtailed my play because it's not a wise use of my hard earned cash. I also was MAD when I heard the law had passed, essentially taking away my right to gamble.....even though I know it's bad. Given that a very small percentange of voters now decide the closer political races of today, I would say that many of the "swing" voters will be impacted by this law. Poker is very popular these days. Flip through the TV channels most weeknights and you will find it on more than one. Many if not most of these voters won't have the same moral dilemma as I do. The law is not a bad thing, it just came at a bad time. I hope and pray I am wrong.


368 posted on 10/09/2006 7:00:15 PM PDT by Phil Southern (Dirt is for growin' taters, asphault is for racin')
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To: Miss Marple
The author of this article lost his job when Newt Gingrich literally screwed himself out of a job.

After all it was Newt who cheated on his wife with his secretary. That is a man really dedicated to a cause...isn't it.

The fact is the people that replaced Gingrich wanted no part of his immoral staff or pollsters.

The truth is we won the 1994 election because of redistricting. There were a ton of 53/47 Republican districts that were not won because of the Perot idiots in 1992. But by 1994 Perot was no longer on the ballot and we won the House. Gingrich and his pollster knew exactly why the Republicans won. They also lied to the media and us and took the credit.

I was active in the Republican party in the 1960s when Ray Bliss came up with the Grass Roots party action designed to take the house in 1992. That required winning a majority of states and then gerrymandering them. That is what was done. But the Gerrymander had to be thin because there were not that many Republicans. So Perot delayed it two years.

This pollster just wants to discourage the Republicans so the current leadership gets defeated or removed. Then he hopes to return to center stage.

Fools fall for such people .... as they nearly always do.

369 posted on 10/09/2006 7:07:08 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
I always thought the Contract With America was written to give the Republicans a phoney mandate for some issues they wanted to push after the election, which they knew they would win.

Not one person I know even knew about the contract. None of them reads TV Guide. HA!

370 posted on 10/09/2006 7:15:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Common Tator

Which makes the efforts of the democrats to write up their own version even funnier.


371 posted on 10/09/2006 7:15:49 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: presently no screen name

Sinless isn't required. What is required is that someone in a position to see national security information is not subject to blackmail.


372 posted on 10/09/2006 8:25:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: nopardons
You named my choice. The Constitution Party, or something like it, to replace the Republican Party. We have replaced political parties in the past, and it's time to do it again. Replace them both. You are a very angry man.

A party like the Constitution Party, for which I have been raising a great deal of interest in southern Indiana and northern Kentucky, does not believe in a theocracy; it recognizes the existence of God and the place of the God of the Bible in our history and heritage, and by His forbearance of our wickedness, His place in our current preservation as a nation.

The Republican Party, along with its president, on the other hand, is deathly afraid to offend the people taking over our country who DO believe in a theocracy, the Islamists.

Understand how politics works? Politics will not be the saviour, the defense or the preservation of our nation. You can get a lot wrong in politics and still survive. You can get a lot wrong in economics and still survive. But you can't play with the laws of God, the destruction of our young people by sex mania and Hellywood, drugs and alcohol, tolerance of sodomy and other destructive perversions and still survive as a nation.

You can't continue to turn the Constitutional Republic into a socialist democracy and survive as the nation we were intended and constituted to be.
373 posted on 10/09/2006 9:05:26 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: thoughtomator
What is required is that someone in a position to see national security information is not subject to blackmail.

I did not realize we were discussing clinton.
374 posted on 10/09/2006 9:09:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: nopardons
then you've just proved how blinkered and biased, and ill educated you are.

A wolf in sheeps' clothing. The door has been left open.
375 posted on 10/09/2006 9:16:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I'm away, on vacation actually, and left my decoder ring at home. Would you please explain what that means?


376 posted on 10/09/2006 9:19:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: presently no screen name

We're discussing an large percentage of the political elite, unfortunately. If you were around here back in the Clinton era, you might remember that the blackmail angle was a not insignificant concern. It remains so.


377 posted on 10/09/2006 9:23:12 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

Oh yeah! It's time to abandon the Republican boat that fished us out of the Democrat's sewer of corruption, and jump right back into that sewer, to spite the Republicans because the stench of the democrat's sewer still assails our nostrils even here on the boat.

Only in the desperate dreams of delusional liberal democrats.


378 posted on 10/09/2006 9:23:32 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Want to find a Mosque? Get your self a bomb sniffing dog.)
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To: Free Baptist
You don't realize what you have just proved about yourself and the Constitution Party. I won't spell it out for you, but will just say that your post is part of the reason most people want NO part of that fringe of the fringe, sort of, kind of, not ready for anything at all political party.

Here's a wee hint.....the Birchers were actually better than you lot and they were nutters and a bit weird.

379 posted on 10/09/2006 9:26:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; cyborg

Me, I'm partial to the Constimatooshunalist Party.


380 posted on 10/09/2006 9:28:03 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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