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Last-minute bill changes funding for border fence
Washington Post ^ | Oct 6, 2006 | Spencer S. Hsu

Posted on 10/06/2006 6:49:47 AM PDT by engrpat

WASHINGTON - No sooner did Congress authorize construction of a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border last week than lawmakers rushed to approve separate legislation that ensures it will never be built, at least not as advertised, according to Republican lawmakers and immigration experts.

GOP leaders have singled out the fence as one of the primary accomplishments of the recently completed session. Many lawmakers plan to highlight their $1.2 billion down payment on its construction as they campaign in the weeks before the midterm elections.

But shortly before recessing late Friday, the House and Senate gave the Bush administration leeway to distribute the money to a combination of projects -- not just the physical barrier along the southern border. The funds may also be spent on roads, technology and "tactical infrastructure" to support the Homeland Security Department's preferred option of a "virtual fence."

What's more, in a late-night concession to win over wavering Republicans, GOP congressional leaders pledged in writing that American Indian tribes, members of Congress, governors and local leaders would get a say in "the exact placement" of any structure, and that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff would have the flexibility to use alternatives "when fencing is ineffective or impractical."

The loopholes leave the Bush administration with authority to decide where, when and how long a fence will be built, except for small stretches east of San Diego and in western Arizona. Homeland Security officials have proposed a fence half as long, lawmakers said.

This case reflects political calculations by GOP strategists that voters do not mind the details, and that key players -- including the administration, local leaders and the Mexican government -- oppose a fence-only approach, analysts said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; betrayal; border; bush; bushamnesty; congress; fence; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; invasionusa; mexico; quislings; sellout; virtualfence
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Looks like we got had again by our own guys.
1 posted on 10/06/2006 6:49:48 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: engrpat

We got the money through, the only way we could. Now we all write our local papers, the national papers, and the white house, and tell them we want them to spend the money on the fence.

At least the money is THERE. They could have pushed for specific targetted money and lost the vote, leaving NO money at all to build our fence.


2 posted on 10/06/2006 6:53:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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There are some places where a fence is not feasible due to terrain issues but of course the local governors want a say in how our FEDERAL borders are enforced. If Bush and Co bend over for Mexico on this then they will have given the WH and any hope of retaining/regaining the Senate and House in 2008.
3 posted on 10/06/2006 6:54:28 AM PDT by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: engrpat

WE"VE BEEN PUNKED!!!!!!


4 posted on 10/06/2006 6:56:24 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: engrpat

The headline is misleading. The money will still be spent on a fence, but there is flexibility in what that fence will look like. It won't be the same design in all places. In some places, it will be electronic. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


5 posted on 10/06/2006 6:56:38 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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This is a far bigger scandal that that stupid IM BS.

THIS IS WHAT VINCEWNTE FOX KNEW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!1


Physical BArrier or don't rest easy Mr. Congressman!!!


(boy this saved me a donation check!)


6 posted on 10/06/2006 7:00:05 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Dog Gone
It isn't going to happen. Neither party will allow us to seal the borders.

Their efforts are to placate and delude their constituents.

(How do you know a politician is lying?)

7 posted on 10/06/2006 7:00:35 AM PDT by LouAvul
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"key players -- including the administration, local leaders and the Mexican government -- oppose a fence-only approach"

What does the Mexican government have to do with it? Are they getting addle-pated in Congress?


8 posted on 10/06/2006 7:00:55 AM PDT by RoadTest (and so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake - Deut. 9.19)
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To: Dog Gone

Virtual fence is a real nothing.

A border patrol agent 200 miles away is still powerless.

Agents can be paid off (as seen in the past)

A physical barrier will work. The fence is SUPPOSED to be a high tech barrier or smart fence!


9 posted on 10/06/2006 7:02:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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This is a ploy by the Republicans to demoralize us Conservatives and keep us away from the polls in this upcoming election.

For further clarification read my long time tag line. - tom

10 posted on 10/06/2006 7:06:06 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: longtermmemmory

Would you demand a fence on this stretch of the Texas/Mexican border?

http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Texas/WestTexas/Castolon/InsideSantaElena.html


11 posted on 10/06/2006 7:06:35 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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lets face it, folks
this fence/wall is not gonna be built until we have a leader who WILL DEMAND IT!
and we don't have one yet...
so we'll just have to make DAMN SURE that the next POTUS WILL DEMAND IT!


12 posted on 10/06/2006 7:08:50 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: engrpat

anyone have a link to the voting record on this?


13 posted on 10/06/2006 7:12:46 AM PDT by Ellesu
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To: Dog Gone
I think what you may be missing in this is the give with one hand and take with another. The money statement I believe is: "This case reflects political calculations by GOP strategists that voters do not mind the details"

If it really was a matter as to what area(s) were more suitable that could well have been and should have been the focus of the bill. As it is now we have the fox guarding the hen house.

14 posted on 10/06/2006 7:13:25 AM PDT by engrpat
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Even worst, it allows a Dem President to use the loop holes to delay the fence until enough legal Mexican immigrants become citizens and tip the electoral balance in key states (CA, TX, etc). Then political will to close the border with a fence will be dead and the North American Union marches on to reality. These globalists have been scheming for years, they are small in numbers but nimble enough to call upon their contacts in government and legislature to delay, delay until the demographics change, and men like Tancredo will never get elected and moderates like McCain will throw their lot with the globalist left/right or else lose their reelections. I know many conservatives have put up a good fight for the fence and control of illegal immigration, but if all this fails (because we have been betrayed by the GOP), we may have to prepare ourselves to live in a post illegal immigration society. Any thoughts Freepers??


15 posted on 10/06/2006 7:15:35 AM PDT by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: LouAvul

I agree. We're being played by both sides.


16 posted on 10/06/2006 7:21:49 AM PDT by processing please hold
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To: longtermmemmory

Are you trying to say a virtual fence is virtually nothing?

If so, we're in agreement.


17 posted on 10/06/2006 7:24:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: engrpat

The "money statement" is made by some unnamed analyst that the Washington Post used in the article.

We don't even know that the "analyst" is a Republican.

It's pretty clear to me that Washington Post achieved the desired effect in writing this story. They'll minimize and spin any achievement by the GOP congress to discourage conservative voters.

Looks like it's working.


18 posted on 10/06/2006 7:30:14 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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'Hey, Jose! Check this. That Vicente one sly Fox, eh?'
19 posted on 10/06/2006 7:31:44 AM PDT by Eastbound
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Looks like we got had again by our own guys.

SSDD!

20 posted on 10/06/2006 7:31:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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