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School Shooting:Multiple Deaths in Lancaster, PA Amish School, Shooter Kills Self
Fox News Alert ^ | 02 OCT 06

Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Developing....

School Shooting injures one person,

Hostage situation may be developing.

Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County

Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.

Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting

NICKEL MINES, Pa. — At least two female students and one slightly older female — who may have been a teacher's aide — were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.

State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.

"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.

Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.

"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.

After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims — some critically wounded — were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.

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To: eyespysomething

I keep thinking about the perps family also. Three kids that he had just taken to the bus stop. How many lives ruined by this guy is incredible.


901 posted on 10/02/2006 12:12:34 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Lower than ANY life form we know of ...

Inexplicable.


902 posted on 10/02/2006 12:12:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: SuziQ

"but he told them that he was going to count to 10, then start shooting. That's when they broke in."

If that is indeed what he told them - then no- I don't blame them.


903 posted on 10/02/2006 12:12:39 PM PDT by Revel
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To: La Enchiladita
The boys don't have cell phones. One of the released adults got to a phone and called 911. It was all in the presser..

You missed my point with technicalities. Cell phone, whatever, one adult should have stayed with the children. Guess I view it as a captain going down with the ship.

If one of those girls had been my little 6 year old being tied up and I walked out on her in the scariest time of her life that would be a living hell for the rest of my life. Better to die with the child than have that on one's mind forever. No one seems to answer the actually question, how do you walk out on a child and leave them with a psycho?

904 posted on 10/02/2006 12:13:02 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: vrwcagent0498

This Friday was Homecoming in our small town. Someone called in and threatened to shoot the HS cheerleaders so they weren't allowed to march in the parade, have a pep rally or even cheer at the game. This incident in PA shows that we really do have to take these things seriously.


905 posted on 10/02/2006 12:13:05 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank You!


906 posted on 10/02/2006 12:13:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Julliardsux

Nope. I pretty much assume that everyone kills these days no matter what you do. I had an incident some years ago where a man tried to assault me at a payphone. I fought back not knowing if he had a knife, a gun, or whatever and he left. Then I called the police with a good description of the perp.


907 posted on 10/02/2006 12:14:07 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: ohioWfan

ditto what you said.


908 posted on 10/02/2006 12:14:31 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: La Enchiladita
How can you blame the victims for the evil that was done?

I don't blame them. I've already stated that they probably would have died also. But we don't know that either. How do you not blame an adult for leaving children with a killer?

909 posted on 10/02/2006 12:14:44 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: wagglebee
One of the horrors of all this is that this is the last place many of us would have ever thought a tragedy like this would happen.

You are so right about this.

The fact that they were innocent children is hard enough to bear, but that they were part of a community that attempts to live life in simplicity and avoidance of worldly influence makes it even more shocking, IMO.

God be with them. This is just horrible.....

910 posted on 10/02/2006 12:14:55 PM PDT by ohioWfan (George W. Bush - "Take his character all together, and we shall not look upon his like again.")
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To: franky
We live close to the Amish here in NE Ohio. They use what they need to get by, as many work outside the home now. Still don't drive, the ones working on my home are driven in someone else. I couldn't ask for harder workers on my home.
911 posted on 10/02/2006 12:15:09 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: TXBubba

I wonder if the teacher was just very naive to the ways of the world and did not "believe" the perp would harm the girls? Just a thought.....


912 posted on 10/02/2006 12:15:17 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: LibertyRocks
Lord have mercy on us all...

Amen... we need Him now more than ever.

913 posted on 10/02/2006 12:15:31 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: bonfire

Yep. I mean, from everything I've heard today, they had no idea he was going to do this.

Can you imagine if you came home and found suicide notes for all from your husband? Then this?

And his poor kids.

Such a sad sad reality left behind, all for some selfish evil act.


914 posted on 10/02/2006 12:15:32 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: TXBubba
If one of those girls had been my little 6 year old being tied up and I walked out on her in the scariest time of her life that would be a living hell for the rest of my life. Better to die with the child than have that on one's mind forever. No one seems to answer the actually question, how do you walk out on a child and leave them with a psycho?

The women that were let go all had babies or were pregnant

Would you have both of your children killed?

Sophie's choice,

915 posted on 10/02/2006 12:15:32 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Revel

He started shooting THEN they broke in.


916 posted on 10/02/2006 12:15:50 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: eyespysomething

I also would pray for the killer's children. What a horrible thing to live with! Thinking "I came from this garbage"! Never mind being raised by it!


917 posted on 10/02/2006 12:16:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: New Girl

But in this situation it was an unarmed room of young people and women, and the perp was a guy with a shotgun and a semi-auto handgun. The only thing that you would accomplish by trying to attack him would be forcing him to shoot.

Also, it may be one thing to make that decision to defend yourself, but in this situation, an attempt to defend could result in the guy shooting others.


918 posted on 10/02/2006 12:16:05 PM PDT by Julliardsux
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To: Revel
If a gunman has everyone lined up in room and can kill them instantly then it is best not to anger him or set him off because there is no counter assault that can be effective against him. Since I don't seem to be sure of all of the details in this case then I won't make anymore judgements about it at this time. I am just pointing out that force is not always the way to deal with a disturbed person.

Since it seems you missed the first press conference from the State Police, they plan on having another one around 6 with updates.

The policeman made it a point to say that he would not speculate on things he did not know.

919 posted on 10/02/2006 12:16:07 PM PDT by Abby4116
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