Musharraf Blasts "Ungrateful" West

Islamonline & News Agencies ^ | Sept. 30, 2006

[jmc1969]

The United States and its allies will fail in the so-called "war on terror" without the support of Pakistan and its intelligence service, Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf said Saturday, September 30.

"You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you would not manage anything. Let that be clear," he said.

"And if the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) is not with you, you will fail. Let that be very clear also. Remember my words: if the ISI is not with you and Pakistan is not with you will lose in Afghanistan."

Musharraf recorded the interview after talks with British Prime Minister Tony Blair in London on Thursday, September 28.

In a collection of memoirs entitled "In the Line of Fire," Musharraf further said that US intelligence has paid Pakistan millions of dollars for handing over Al-Qaeda suspects it has captured.

"We have captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States. We have earned bounties totalling millions of dollars," Musharraf says in his book, which was released on Monday.

"Those who habitually accuse us of 'not doing enough' in the war on terror should simply ask the CIA how much prize money it has paid to the government of Pakistan," he says, without specifying where the money came from.

[SoldierDad]

Your opinion is shared by me and many others. Having a free media may have once been a benefit for this country, but their efforts to help our enemies has changed that.

[backtothestreets]

I wouldn't label the news source of this article as MSM, but a source with a tainted purpose. To lump all MSM as siding against our cause is wrong. There are voices within MSM that are trying desperately to to keep our population informed of many events they see as counterproductive to the WOT. Consider for a moment:

It was MSM, not our politicians that informed us that:
The Pakistan government had made peace with the regions of Pakistan giving safe harbor to al Qaeda and the Taliban;
Pakistan had released al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners, which they claim number about 500-600, but our intelligence services claim to number up to 7,000;
Pakistan armed the prisoners as they were released;
Aired interviews of our military forces in Afghanistan stating the Pakistan regional peace combined with the prison release has made their task much more difficult and dangerous;
Reported our military is prohibited from pursuing al Qaeda and Taliban militants once they slip back over the Pakistan border with Afghanistan; Reported the extremists schools and training camps in Pakistan still flourish.

If not for MSM these news items might not be known at all because the White House sure isn't making them known, and they are all counterproductive to the stated goal of seeking out and killing our enemies wherever they may be. It could well be that some within MSM are trying to rally our population to hold the White House to their promises. There is a major threat to all western civilization, and someone needs to make this threat known to as much of our population as possible. The White House is not doing it. The alliance with Pakistan is a fraud.

[kinoxi]

I would like to think that.

[mjp]

if Pakistan was wiped off the face of the earth our problems would be significantly reduced.

And also Iran and Syria and Mecca and .......

[what's up]

You just keep cheerleading for the MSM.

Sounds like that's just where you belong.

[etherealle part 3]

you man the same ISI that colluded to kill innocent Indians as well? yeah, sounds like a group we really need to be working with....

really, if pakistan fell to the islamonazis, it might be good because we wouldn't be too worried about sending troops into waziristan anymore and hurting our "allies" feelings.

[BunnySlippers]

And also Iran and Syria and Mecca and .......

OK, so if the whole Middle East disappeared ... with the exception of Israel, our problems would pretty much be over.

[backtothestreets]

Sounds like that's just where you belong.

And you just keep cheering for the people releasing forces against our troops. Sounds like where you belong.

We cannot maintain an alliance with a nation harboring, arming, and allowing enemy forces to come against our military. In the words of President Bush on 9-11, "We will make no distinction between the terrorists that committed these acts and those that harbor them". The alliance with Pakistan is a distinction that cannot be defended.

[FreedomCalls]

"And if the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) is not with you, you will fail. Let that be very clear also. Remember my words: if the ISI is not with you and Pakistan is not with you will lose in Afghanistan."

So if we fail in Afghanistan, it is Pakistan's fault for that shows that they weren't really with us after all.

"We have captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States. We have earned bounties totalling millions of dollars," Musharraf says in his book, which was released on Monday. "Those who habitually accuse us of 'not doing enough' in the war on terror should simply ask the CIA how much prize money it has paid to the government of Pakistan," he says, without specifying where the money came from.

If they were "really with us" and not just faking it, they wouldn't be accepting bounty money at all. They would just turn them over as the right thing to do.

[what's up]

And you just keep cheering for the people releasing forces

LOL. Never cheered anyone. I just didn't defend the MSM who are just as much an enemy as anyone else.

[Let's Roll]

Did anyone in the Bush admin criticize Pakistan? Musharaff needs to differentiate between the actual leaders of this country and the "loyal" opposition and their water carrying msm.

Just as bomb threats rather than actual bombing can throw society into chaos, so apparently can accusations from those who have no accountability/responsibility if they are mouthed often enough and loud enough.

[AwesomePossum]

I believe what President Musharraf is trying to say, (he does speak pretty good english, not a full command, but better than many American high school graduates) is this...............He needs our continued support in the WOT, period.

He and a few in his government and ISI are keeping things going.................He is risking his life every single day to do so...............If he goes under, lookout.

He needs our respect and our support, period. Do we judge Bush by everything the demonrats do? Of course not. Bush cannot control everything that happens, neither can Musharraf (and even to a lesser degree).

The government leaders in Iraq know that they could be killed any day for their support of freedom, and, they are not now able to control everything that happens in Iraq..................Musharraf knows that he could be killed any day for supporting freedom, and, he is not now able to control everything that happens in Pakistan. I think we should include him in our prayers.................

[Paperdoll]

Even our friends are our enemies. Just what does Pakistan expect from us?

[Paperdoll]

When push comes to shove, all Muslims will unite against the West. It is time to get REALLY TOUGH!

[backtothestreets]

Then my apologies if I offended you. I just believe there are some good people within MSM trying to alert the population of the depth of the threat, and trying desperately to awaken our sleeping population. Islam, all of Islam is at war with everything not Islamic.

Even if the vast majority of our population came to accept this view, it is no guarantee our politicians would respond to public opinion anymore than they have responded to the vast majority of the population that views illegal immigration as a major problem.

[hardworking]

I'm confused as to why these reporters wish for the U.S. to fail in the WOT. Their lives won't be in any less danger if we fail, and possibly even more danger.

Because they will do ANYTHING to make the U.S. secular (meaning non-Christian). In their opinion, Islam is just a 'passing fancy' that will go away after the enlightened among us talk with the leaders of Islam and point out to them that they really should be nice. Translated that means: If the Dems take over everything will be peachy keen because the wacko Islamists will be hugged into cooperation and as part of the 'hugs' any and all religion, with the exception of Christianity, will happily florish and everyone will 'get along' and the press will be part of the 'heroic' leftwing endeavor that brought about this utopia. And no, I am not exagerating - they do think this way.

[SoldierDad]

I can't argue you this. These media idiots, I guess, don't realize you cannot "hug" yourself out of the enemy's desire to kill you while they are hacking off your head with a dull rusty blade.

[Nuc1]

"Paksitan will fall to Islamism before the next year is done... if not sooner and we cannot do a thing to help them."

Umm...why can't we help them?

[Mobile Vulgus]

What would you imagine we COULD do short of invading and taking over? We already have been refused the right to enter the country with our own troops to help Mushie take out terrorists. That is because he cannot control his military and if we were to go in there many of them would turn on us.

He is increasingly being isolated and his country is turning more Islamist all the time. He is losing his battle for control and won't live much longer as the leader of that failed state. He has already barely escaped several plots against him.

We may as well realize he is lost to us as his capabilities to help us are fast waning!

[BARLF]

Interesting thread. Bookmarking for future reference to see who's right and who guessed wrong.