Former [UVA Football] Teammate: George Allen Stuffed Deer Head into Black Fmaily's Mailbox

Former teammate Doctor Ken Shelton says, "Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place.'"

"He used the N-word on a regular basis back then," said Shelton, who was in Salon.com.

During a hunting outing with Allen and another teammate, Shelton says Allen drove the three to a black neighborhood and "he proceeded to take the doe's head and stuff it into a mailbox."

Bishop Gerald Glenn says he used to see Allen as a Confederate flag waving redneck and has talked to the senator about his perception problem in the African American community.

While the two still disagree on key issues, Glenn says assassinating Allen's character does nothing for the voters of Virginia.

Allen told reporters today that he and Doctor Shelton weren't close and haven't spoken to each other in more than 30 years. Other teammates have released statements saying they've never heard Allen use racial slurs.

Allen's approval rating is down in the latest poll released today by SurveyUSA. The poll was taken last week, so the numbers do not reflect possible reaction to the Salon.com article.

"Indians consider themselves quite "white", particularly those who are Brahmin, or belong to a Jot that's ascended to importance, and who count among their ancestors Aryans from the West (Persia, Bulgaria, etc.)
This gentleman is quite arguably "white"."

Indians are NOT considered white. They are part of the Asians category. All of the gov't regulations about EOE forms and categories for ethnics have Indians as Asians. For census purposes, Indians are Asians. Some may CONSIDER themselves white, but they are not for statistical and census purposes. Why would they be so eager to consider themselves white. Do they think it is more prestigious? Do they have a little bit of ethnic self-hatred going on there?

That's just a bureaucratic decision. Even in the United States a white person married to a qualifying person is ALSO, for purposes of administering the law, considered whatever the qualifying person is.

That, BTW, does not actually do a genetic change in the affected individual.

Now, concerning "white" in and of itself, the Louisiana standard never became a national, or even a regional standard in the United States. It certainly is not a world standard. On the other hand, the term does not (in languages other than Afrikaans and English) denote only persons of predominantly European ancestry. And, as much as many Indians would like to continue to be identified by caste and jot, there's "historical evidence" that several thousand years ago Indo-European people migrated into India and settled down. Even later an Afghan king who'd been deposed by his own people invaded and conquered all of India. His followers undoubtedly spread their genes far and wide. If Indian people want to forget about that part of their history I suppose that's fine, but it happened!

The Arabs also conquered the Indus valley in more recent times, and there's been a constant flow of Persian and European people into India dating back to the 1400s that simply cannot be ignored!

At the same time there are populations in India which are clearly not of Indo-European origin. Some are obviously East Asian in appearance (although culturally far removed from current East Asia). Others are quite dark, albeit with straight hair. We can speculate how this came to be, but modern genetic research suggests they are merely ancestral to groups which are otherwise identified as "European" or "white".

If you want to check this out, the family that ruled Iran before the Pavlavis came on board lives in the United States. Take a drive out to the University of Kansas and you can check them out ~ in the summer they are quite dark. In winter they lighten up.

In the end Indian people can think whatever they want ~ that doesn't mean their thoughts on the matter agree with history or genetics.

Even in the United States a white person married to a qualifying person is ALSO, for purposes of administering the law, considered whatever the qualifying person is.
That, BTW, does not actually do a genetic change in the affected individual.

Sorry, but your response is just so much useless semantics. We go by what is today the norm, not by what indigenous group mingled with what other group way back when in history. Indians can consider themselves to be whatever color they want (Asian, by the way, is not a color). They are statistically and through common understanding considered Asian today. Live with it.

I was speaking of the law. The EEOC has rules that deal with the situation involving someone in an inter-racial marriage. Let's say you marry a qualifying American Indian, then your boss starts harrassing you about pow-wows, and so on.

You qualify!

As far as people from the Indian subcontinent being Asian, that may be true but they are NOT Chinese, Japanese, Vietnanmese, Korean or Pacific Islander.

I suspect you're not terribly familiar with the "Indian people" who live in Pakistan and Afghanistan, or even with most Punjabis who live in India.

Besides, these guys don't call it "Asia", they call it "South Asia".

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