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To: muawiyah

"Indians consider themselves quite "white", particularly those who are Brahmin, or belong to a Jot that's ascended to importance, and who count among their ancestors Aryans from the West (Persia, Bulgaria, etc.)
This gentleman is quite arguably "white"."

Indians are NOT considered white. They are part of the Asians category. All of the gov't regulations about EOE forms and categories for ethnics have Indians as Asians. For census purposes, Indians are Asians. Some may CONSIDER themselves white, but they are not for statistical and census purposes. Why would they be so eager to consider themselves white. Do they think it is more prestigious? Do they have a little bit of ethnic self-hatred going on there?


243 posted on 09/27/2006 10:16:47 PM PDT by flaglady47 ( thinking out loud)
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To: flaglady47
That's just a bureaucratic decision. Even in the United States a white person married to a qualifying person is ALSO, for purposes of administering the law, considered whatever the qualifying person is.

That, BTW, does not actually do a genetic change in the affected individual.

Now, concerning "white" in and of itself, the Louisiana standard never became a national, or even a regional standard in the United States. It certainly is not a world standard. On the other hand, the term does not (in languages other than Afrikaans and English) denote only persons of predominantly European ancestry. And, as much as many Indians would like to continue to be identified by caste and jot, there's "historical evidence" that several thousand years ago Indo-European people migrated into India and settled down. Even later an Afghan king who'd been deposed by his own people invaded and conquered all of India. His followers undoubtedly spread their genes far and wide. If Indian people want to forget about that part of their history I suppose that's fine, but it happened!

The Arabs also conquered the Indus valley in more recent times, and there's been a constant flow of Persian and European people into India dating back to the 1400s that simply cannot be ignored!

At the same time there are populations in India which are clearly not of Indo-European origin. Some are obviously East Asian in appearance (although culturally far removed from current East Asia). Others are quite dark, albeit with straight hair. We can speculate how this came to be, but modern genetic research suggests they are merely ancestral to groups which are otherwise identified as "European" or "white".

If you want to check this out, the family that ruled Iran before the Pavlavis came on board lives in the United States. Take a drive out to the University of Kansas and you can check them out ~ in the summer they are quite dark. In winter they lighten up.

In the end Indian people can think whatever they want ~ that doesn't mean their thoughts on the matter agree with history or genetics.

245 posted on 09/28/2006 4:57:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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