Posted on 09/24/2006 9:03:18 AM PDT by technomage
After reading parts of the FoxNews Sunday transcript of the interview between Wallace and Clinton, something stuck out to me.
Clinton keeps claiming that 'right wing conservatives' were constantly complaining that he was too obsessed with bin Laden. I have mentioned previous that I have no memories of that happening. What I do remember is conservatives in general complaining about his obsession with Monica.
But, getting back to that claim that conservatives were complaining that Clinton was too obsessed with bin Laden.
After watching the rant, oops, interview, Clinton slipped up. He showed his cards by uttering three little words: wag the dog.
It was like a light bulb going off in my head.
Now it made sense. Clinton is once again 'mixing' historical events to conform to what he wants the world to remember.
Conservatives did use the wag the dog reference numerous times, not in reference to bin Laden, but in reference to Clinton's massive bombardment of Serbia, which had absolutely nothing to do with bin Laden.
Clinton, in the interview basically says, and I paraphrase:
conservatives were complaining that I was obsessed with bin Laden, you know the wag the dog references.
THAT is the statement that shows that either Clinton is having memory problems and mixing up events, or is lying.
All the wag the dog references in the 90's had nothing to do with bin Laden, but had everything to do with Serbia and Milosevic, as far as my meager memory serves. I may be wrong, and I may be unaware of statements to the contrary but as far as I can remember, all those references were regarding Milosevic and Serbia.
Claiming that 'right wing conservatives' were complaining that Clinton was obsessed with bin Laden is an outright lie. But to try and prove it by using the wag the dog reference was a stupid move on his part and illuminated his lack of facts to back it up. And in my view, invalidated the rest of the rant, er interview.
I think this should be reported and examined in depth. The paranoia of the left is expanding exponentially ever since Hillary uttered her infamous, "...vast right wing conspiracy." Clinton did it today. Thinking back on Dean, Kerry,et.al, they all attack the motive of the conservatives, but offer no alternative solution. They even say dismissively it is not their place to offer an alternative, but to point to the rights' failures.
This world view is worthy of careful scruteny.
Isn't it ironic that the wag the dog moniker was placed around Clinton's neck by his old running buddies, DeNiro, Hoffman, and meathead.
A QUESTION For Everybody...
If Bill really did order BL's assassination, wasn't he in violation of the prohibition against direct assassination enected by Ford and Carter, and upheld by Reagan????
Doesn't it apply EXCEPT in a time of war??
I don't remember Billy declaring War, do you???
Interview Quote"I authorized the CIA to get groups together to try to kill him."
http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/11/04/us.assassination.policy/
CNN-Novenber 4,2002...
In a section of the order labeled "Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Ford outlawed political assassination: Section 5(g), entitled "Prohibition on Assassination," states: "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."
Since 1976, every U.S. president has upheld Ford's prohibition on assassinations. In 1978 President Carter issued an executive order with the chief purpose of reshaping the intelligence structure. In Section 2-305 of that order, Carter reaffirmed the U.S. prohibition on assassination.
In 1981, President Reagan, through Executive Order 12333, reiterated the assassination prohibition. Reagan was the last president to address the topic of political assassination. Because no subsequent executive order or piece of legislation has repealed the prohibition, it remains in effect.
Ah,..Rush..he is going to have more sh*t than he can shake a stick at come Monday from the golden EIB microphone. It should be one of the best. The information coupled with Rushes mimickery will be very entertaining and informing. He needs to stay off of the golf course for a few weeks.
From the London Guardian
Clinton knew target was civilian
American tests showed no trace of nerve gas at 'deadly' Sudan
plant. The President ordered the attack anyway
By Ed Vulliamy in Washington, Henry McDonald in Belfast , and
Shyam Bhatia and Martin BrightSunday August 23, 1998
President Bill Clinton knew he was bombing a civilian target when
he ordered the United States attack on a Sudan chemical plant.
Tests ordered by him showed that no nerve gas was on the site and
two British professionals who recently worked at the factory said
it clearly had no military purpose.
Jordan Times (News Section)
'Bombed factory
was incapable of making chemical arms'
By Tareq Ayyoub
AMMAN; Jordanian
experts who supervised the construction of a
pharmaceutical factory in Sudan, destroyed by U.S.
missiles Thursday, said Saturday that the site had no
capability to produce chemical weapons. Ahmad Salem, the
engineer who put together
the construction plan for Al Shifa plant in Khartoum in
1993, said the factory was designed to produce more than
50 types of medicine for malaria, tuberculosis,
antibiotics and other diseases in addition to veterinary
drugs.
“There is no chance this
factory could be used to produce chemical weapons, it was
designed to produce medicine for people and
animals,” Salem told a press conference on Saturday.
Salem was among three Jordanians
who were involved in the establishment of the factory
which was inaugurated on July 1997. The other two are Eid
Abu Dalbouh, a pharmacist, and Mohammed Abdul Wahed, the
engineer who designed the equipment used to produce the
medicines.
http://tinyurl.com/pycb6
EVIDENCE CONFIRMS THAT CLINTON'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTACK ON IRAQ WAS A LONG-PLANNED POLITICAL PLOY
Robert Novak points out that (The Washington Post, 12/21/98, p. A29) "As Clinton took Palestinian applause in Gaza last Monday [December 14], secret plans were underway for an air strike coinciding with the House impeachment vote. The president had time to consult with Congress and the U.N. Security Council but took no step that might stay his hand.
"As whenever a president pulls the trigger, Clinton's top national security advisers supported him. But majors and lieutenant colonels at the Pentagon, whose staff work undergirds any military intervention, are, in the words of a senior officer, ‘200 percent opposed. They disagree fundamentally.’ They know the attack on Iraq was planned long before Butler's report and consider it politically motivated."
U.N. VIOLATIONS PROP WAS A CLINTON-SCRIPTED PROP
According to Rowan Scarborough (The Washington Times, 12/17/98, p. A1), "The White House notified the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Sunday that President Clinton would order air strikes this week, 48 hours before he saw a United Nations report declaring Iraq in noncompliance with weapons inspectors, it was learned from authoritative sources last night....
"Pentagon sources said National Security Council aides told the Joint Chiefs to quickly update a bombing plan that was shelved in mid-November and were told that a strike would be ordered in a matter of days.
"Israeli spokesman Aviv Bushinsky said yesterday in Jerusalem that President Clinton discussed preparations for an attack with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu just minutes before Mr. Clinton flew home from Israel's Ben-Gurion Airport on Tuesday, ending a three-day peace mission...."
If you have any doubts, let's just review the facts:
* On Aug. 17, 1998, Clinton went on national television to offer an explanation-cum-apology for his deposition that day in the Monica Lewinsky investigation. On Aug. 20, 1998, Clinton launched a cruise missile assault against Sudan and Afghanistan. The Afghan real estate was supposed to be the base of terrorist Osama bin Laden. But he was not present, though 24 others were reportedly killed. The Sudan site was an alleged chemical-weapons plant that turned out to be a perfectly legitimate pharmaceutical company. The night watchman was killed.
* On Dec. 16, 1998, Operation Desert Fox began with air and cruise missile attacks on Iraq just hours before the House of Representatives was to commence its impeachment debate. The proceedings were delayed by a day because of the military action. The operation ended three days later, by some accounts, out of respect for the Islamic holiday of Ramadan. Nevertheless, some 2,000 Iraqis were killed in the series of bombing raids.
* In February 1999, Clinton was faced with two scandals breaking at once -- the emerging evidence that he had raped Juanita Broaddrick and the details of security lapses that resulted in American nuclear secrets falling into the hands of the Chinese. Though many analysts were surprised at the precipitous manner in which negotiations were halted, Clinton chose this moment to launch what turned into an 11-week bombing campaign in Serbia, killing some 6,000 Yugoslavian troops, 2,000 civilians and sparking the revenge killings of some 11,000 ethnic Albanian Muslims.
http://tinyurl.com/orwnd
Which is, I suspect, the trigger that sent Bubba over the edge. He thought he was coming into a friendly camp that would make him look as good as possible.
Funny thing is - HE is the one who wouldn't shut up once he got started! Chris tried several times to divert, but Bubba wouldn't let go....and spilled even more lies ' like he was called, but the pubbies, obsessed over getting Binny Boy. Now the media is checking out just where the evidence for this is....
Oh what tangled webs we weave...
The last time President Clinton launched air strikes on Iraq, Monica Lewinsky's name was just beginning to become a household word. The comparisons to that attack last winter with the movie "Wag the Dog," in which a president wages a fake war to divert attention from a sex scandal, were inevitable, but ultimately speculative, and only came from unofficial sources, not Congress.
Now, Lewinsky is probably more famous than Michael Jackson, and Bill Clinton's eleventh-hour bombing of Baghdad, just before a probable impeachment by the House, has some Members of Congress questioning the President's motives in violation of an unwritten code that says you don't criticize the Commander-in-Chief during wartime.
"Never underestimate a desperate president," said Rep. Harold Solomon, (R-NY)
Solomon, who is retiring at the end of the year, said Clinton's only way of postponing his impeachment and getting it "off the front page" was the air strike on Iraq.
Even more dangerous, entering the Kosovo war may provoke terrorist retaliation within the United States. It's not only our U.S. troops who will be put in mortal danger. Bin Laden has stated unequivocally that all Americans, including "those who pay taxes," are targets. At a recent Senate hearing, CIA Director George Tenet warned against the danger of a stepped-up terrorist campaign, saying, "There is not the slightest doubt that Osama bin Laden, his worldwide allies, and his sympathizers are planning further attacks against us."
Clinton's reckless meddling in Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Sudan, and Iraq exposes Americans to retaliation from terrorists regardless of whether he achieves any phony "peace" or actually sends in troops.
Clinton predicted on January 22 that it is "highly likely" that a terrorist group will attack on American soil within the next few years. He is using this risk as the excuse to create a Domestic Terrorism Team headed by a military "commander in chief," with a $2.8 billion budget. We should not underestimate the deceit and deviousness of Clinton's plans to use aggressive presidential actions to wipe out public memory of his impeachment trial.
Clinton has already issued a Presidential Decision Directive to authorize military intervention against terrorism on our own soil. Secretary of Defense William Cohen said in an Army Times interview that "Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection."
Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre has been floating the idea of designating a unit of U.S. troops as a Homelands Defense Command to take charge in case of a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Hamre argues that the military's role should be formalized under a four-star general, and he has even speculated about creating a bi-national command with Canada called the "Atlantic Command."
The far-reaching nature of the plans being discussed within the Clinton Administration is indicated in the Autumn 1997 Parameters, the scholarly publication of the Army War College. The article predicts that "the growing prospect of terrorism in our own country . . . will almost inevitably trigger an intervention by the military." The article casually adds, "legal niceties or strict construction of prohibited conduct will be a minor concern."
With regard to Osama bin Laden, in 1998, after the bombing of the U.S. embassies in Africa, President Bill Clinton issued a "presidential finding" authorizing the CIA to initiate covert operations overseas to foil and, where possible, prevent terrorism by bin Laden's al Qaeda network. The finding seems not to have been converted into a Presidential Decision Directive, as these are numbered and identified sequentially for 1998. (It is possible, however, that a portion of a PDD in the 1998 series remains classified.) President George W. Bush reportedly extended this authorization when he assumed office, but again there is no indication of which, if any National Security Presidential Directive is involved.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:-5t0WuneRt4J:www.cdi.org/terrorism/presidential-orders.cfm+Executive+Order+11905+clinton&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6
Isn't there this taped interview where he admits, in his own voice, on his own, that he should have accepted OBL when the Sudenese government offered him up on any of the THREE times the deal came up? By golly, there is sucha tape. Which makes clinochio out to be the LIAR that he is. He is one of the two worst presidents this country has ever inflicted on itself. Wee all know who the other one is.
Which begs the question, was the attack delayed to coincide with Lewinsky testimony? Wasn't this the attack that 'just missed bin "layden"'....?
The use of an executive order, rather than calling for legisla-tion, aids the President’s power in that it enables him to possess an order far morebroad and flexible—and it gives adversaries pause as to whether it may be re-versed if the President is sufficiently provoked
Meanwhile...he is center stage...where he likes sto be..the best thing to do when it comes to Bill Clinton is to just ignore him.
He went off because he is so used to having total control over the media - and here with Chris W., who isn't known as a conservative, by any stretch, he thought he was safe.
He simple showed his true colors of "How DARE you question me on anything I don't want brought up!"
I think you are right...The wag the dog concerned primarily Bosnia, though the cruise missle that missed Bin Laden did also occur at this time I believe. The bottom line:
Clinton's perjury and sexual liasons with Monica not only distracted him BUT it effectively ruined his chances for leadership on fighting terrorism..even if that was his intent (which I don't believe it was) He only talked about terrorism when he was in trouble with his exploits.
ALSO...remember that Bill Clinton is most passionate when he is lying (think of "I never had sex with that woman!") He seemed like he was telling the truth then (which he wasn't) and seemed like he was lying when he "admitted" his actions. With that in mind, I believe his passionate attack on Chris Wallace demonstrates that he was lying about his actions!
Washignton--NewsMax.com has reviewed Monica Lewinsky's secret grand jury testimony. She appeared before the grand jury twice, on August 6, and August 20--three days after Clinton gave his own grand jury testimony.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:huQlkCbVN-kJ:www.newsmax.com/articles/%3Fa%3D1998/9/21/123721+Lewinsky+grand+jury+testimony&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5
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Raid on Afghanistan, Sudan: Aug. 20, 1998: Clinton's Washington Speech
Statement by President Clinton The President spoke from the White House on his decision to strike 'terrorist-related facilities'
http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/asbombing/clintonwash.html
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Clinton's Address Fails To Defuse Ticking Time Bomb Of Starr Report - Aug. 22, 1998
http://www2.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/25/cq/starr.html
Considering the fact that Berger destroyed his notes with classified documents concerning these issues, we'll never the truth for sure.
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