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Channel 4 crucifies human corpse (Von Hagens depicts crucifixion)
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Posted on 09/21/2006 12:09:56 PM PDT by reagandemocrat

Channel 4 is to broadcast a documentary showing a human corpse being hung on a cross to depict Christ's suffering.

Anatomist Gunther von Hagens will use a real body to show how people died when crucified in the 90-minute film.


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KEYWORDS: antichristian; bodyworks; christianity; christians; crucifiction; crucifix; crucifixion; deathpenalty; defilingacorpse; doublestandard; ghoul; gunthervonhagens; plastination; religion; religiousintolerance; torture; vonhagens
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Von Hagens' death cult and his messianic complex.
1 posted on 09/21/2006 12:09:56 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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Why would anyone want to know how someone dies by crucifiction?


2 posted on 09/21/2006 12:11:08 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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90 minutes of crucifixion! Oh! Boy! Make some popcorn and gather round the box kids!

How about a burning at the stake or breaking on the wheel video as a followup?


3 posted on 09/21/2006 12:13:57 PM PDT by Leg Olam ("There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them." Louis Armstrong)
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If I'm not mistaken, many years ago, Jim Bishop wrote a chilling essay about the mechanics of a crucifixion and the resulting horrible death. Since then, others have been as explicit.

Not sure why someone else needs to add to the bizarre nature of this form of execution.


4 posted on 09/21/2006 12:15:28 PM PDT by laweeks (I)
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Been done.

5 posted on 09/21/2006 12:15:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Burgler drops dresser, shot in chest, fills drawers." --Titan Magroyne)
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IMHO what's obscene about this is nothing to do with Jesus, but everything to do with the respect we owe to a corpse that once was the locus of a human person. This is about devaluing humanity and what you might call, by analogy with the US, "human exceptionalism". I'm sorry any station would agree to carry this, expecially since the use of a corpse adds nothing but obscenity to the show.


6 posted on 09/21/2006 12:17:19 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Reality is not optional.)
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Why would anyone want to know how someone dies by crucifiction?
Millions watched The Passion of the Christ. Millions will watch this.
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7 posted on 09/21/2006 12:18:04 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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Most, if not all, of von Hagens' plastinated human beings bear a striking resemblance to, you guessed it, Gunther von Hagens.

He sells a macabre chamber of death and passes it off as 'medical science'.


8 posted on 09/21/2006 12:18:11 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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If the body is already dead, then the depiction is false from the beginning. A living breathing person would writhe in agony and gasp for breath as his lungs were slowly collapsing and muscles stretching beyond the imagination, not to mention the horrible pain from the spikes (not nails) that are used to pierce the wrists (not palms) and ankles (not feet)............


9 posted on 09/21/2006 12:19:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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Even in Mel's great movie, I don't think the depiction of the crucifixion was as real as they actually did them in those times.........


10 posted on 09/21/2006 12:21:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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My thought exactly! I don't think I need to know that!


11 posted on 09/21/2006 12:22:08 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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Even in Mel's great movie, I don't think the depiction of the crucifixion was as real as they actually did them in those times.........

Freakin' OSHA wussies...

12 posted on 09/21/2006 12:22:56 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Burgler drops dresser, shot in chest, fills drawers." --Titan Magroyne)
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Never heard of him, doesn't sound like anything I'd care for.


13 posted on 09/21/2006 12:24:42 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Exactly.


14 posted on 09/21/2006 12:24:53 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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"Out of the door. Line on the left. One cross each."

15 posted on 09/21/2006 12:25:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I didn't watch that either, so I can't understand the fascination.


16 posted on 09/21/2006 12:25:49 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

"Freakin' OSHA wussies.."

Yeah the fall protection layard because he was over 4 feet seemed a bit out of place to me, too.


17 posted on 09/21/2006 12:33:24 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: reagandemocrat

maybe he could demonstrate by actually crucifying madonna


18 posted on 09/21/2006 12:34:03 PM PDT by verum ago (To the UN:Diplomacy is useful only when backed by the threat of swift, merciless, and violent death.)
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To: mugs99
I watched the Passion (sometimes from between my fingers) not for the gory thrill of it but to see what Gibson had to "say" about something of very great importance in my life. What stays with me more than anything is Jesus telling Mary,"Behold, I make all things new" as He staggers to his death.

I doubt that Gibson was going for verisimilitude as much as for stringing together, as it were, moving icons. There was one long shot of the Via Dolorosa that I'm sure was a "quote" from a Giotto (or the work of someone else of that time).At least, I was certain I'd seen it before.

Anyway, my viewing was partially devotional, and partially aesthetic. This sounds entirely gross. Human bodies aren't for TV-edutainment.

19 posted on 09/21/2006 12:36:22 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Reality is not optional.)
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When I first heard about this, I thought it was some sort of mockery of Christianity ala Madonna or something tasteless like that. This sounds a bit more scholarly or pedagogic, at least on the surface.

I remember a very serious, interesting, and well presented small documentary that used to be shown every Easter season on local Chicago TV, sponsored by either De Paul University or Holy Name Cathedral- I don't remember, where a learned priest described crucification in very clinical scientific terms, and then of Christ's crucification specifically, as explanation of the the argument for authenticity of the "Shroud of Turin". Of course, only some photographs were used, as the content was mostly descriptive narration by that scholarly priest.

This new stunt sounds like Von Hagen means to border on morbid bad taste in the very least, using a corpse to pound nails through the wrists and feet, etc. This would be sickening and I hope this program and its originators are thoroughly castigated if it turns out as such.

20 posted on 09/21/2006 12:50:28 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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