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Von Hagens' death cult and his messianic complex.
1 posted on 09/21/2006 12:09:56 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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Why would anyone want to know how someone dies by crucifiction?


2 posted on 09/21/2006 12:11:08 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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90 minutes of crucifixion! Oh! Boy! Make some popcorn and gather round the box kids!

How about a burning at the stake or breaking on the wheel video as a followup?


3 posted on 09/21/2006 12:13:57 PM PDT by Leg Olam ("There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them." Louis Armstrong)
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If I'm not mistaken, many years ago, Jim Bishop wrote a chilling essay about the mechanics of a crucifixion and the resulting horrible death. Since then, others have been as explicit.

Not sure why someone else needs to add to the bizarre nature of this form of execution.


4 posted on 09/21/2006 12:15:28 PM PDT by laweeks (I)
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Been done.

5 posted on 09/21/2006 12:15:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Burgler drops dresser, shot in chest, fills drawers." --Titan Magroyne)
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IMHO what's obscene about this is nothing to do with Jesus, but everything to do with the respect we owe to a corpse that once was the locus of a human person. This is about devaluing humanity and what you might call, by analogy with the US, "human exceptionalism". I'm sorry any station would agree to carry this, expecially since the use of a corpse adds nothing but obscenity to the show.


6 posted on 09/21/2006 12:17:19 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Reality is not optional.)
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If the body is already dead, then the depiction is false from the beginning. A living breathing person would writhe in agony and gasp for breath as his lungs were slowly collapsing and muscles stretching beyond the imagination, not to mention the horrible pain from the spikes (not nails) that are used to pierce the wrists (not palms) and ankles (not feet)............


9 posted on 09/21/2006 12:19:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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"Out of the door. Line on the left. One cross each."

15 posted on 09/21/2006 12:25:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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maybe he could demonstrate by actually crucifying madonna


18 posted on 09/21/2006 12:34:03 PM PDT by verum ago (To the UN:Diplomacy is useful only when backed by the threat of swift, merciless, and violent death.)
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To: reagandemocrat
When I first heard about this, I thought it was some sort of mockery of Christianity ala Madonna or something tasteless like that. This sounds a bit more scholarly or pedagogic, at least on the surface.

I remember a very serious, interesting, and well presented small documentary that used to be shown every Easter season on local Chicago TV, sponsored by either De Paul University or Holy Name Cathedral- I don't remember, where a learned priest described crucification in very clinical scientific terms, and then of Christ's crucification specifically, as explanation of the the argument for authenticity of the "Shroud of Turin". Of course, only some photographs were used, as the content was mostly descriptive narration by that scholarly priest.

This new stunt sounds like Von Hagen means to border on morbid bad taste in the very least, using a corpse to pound nails through the wrists and feet, etc. This would be sickening and I hope this program and its originators are thoroughly castigated if it turns out as such.

20 posted on 09/21/2006 12:50:28 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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Did he show Madonna how to hang appropriately?


22 posted on 09/21/2006 12:52:43 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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You might want to ask the moderator to correct your misspelling of crucifixion.

The word comes from the roots cruci, meaning "cross." and fix, meaning "to attach."

It's a common misspelling, but the word "fiction" means something untrue, so the misspelling is kind of ugly. It's often used by those who disbelieve in the crucifixion of Jesus.


23 posted on 09/21/2006 12:54:33 PM PDT by MineralMan
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Great, now we'll see it as a new form of exploitative art, with corpses popping up in the toitiest of Manhatten galleries.


25 posted on 09/21/2006 12:55:13 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: reagandemocrat
What is it with Germans and schrecklichkeit anyway?

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

26 posted on 09/21/2006 1:10:34 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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maybe he will piss off the muzzys
/s
44 posted on 09/21/2006 2:05:39 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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