Posted on 09/19/2006 4:22:17 PM PDT by mdittmar
THE former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey of Clifton has issued his own challenge to violent Islam in a lecture in which he defends the Popes extraordinarily effective and lucid speech. Lord Carey said that Muslims must address with great urgency their religions association with violence. He made it clear that he believed the clash of civilisations endangering the world was not between Islamist extremists and the West, but with Islam as a whole.
We are living in dangerous and potentially cataclysmic times, he said. There will be no significant material and economic progress [in Muslim communities] until the Muslim mind is allowed to challenge the status quo of Muslim conventions and even their most cherished shibboleths.
Lord Careys address came as the man who shot and wounded the last Pope wrote to Pope Benedict XVI to warn him that he was in danger. Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turkish gunman who tried to murder John Paul II in 1981 and is now in prison in Turkey, urged the Pope not to visit the country in November.
I write as one who knows about these matters very well, Agca said. Your life is in danger. Dont come to Turkey absolutely not!
Since the Pope quoted a Byzantine emperor as saying that the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad were evil and inhuman, a nun has been shot dead, a terrorist group linked to al-Qaeda has vowed to kill the Pope, churches in Palestinian areas have been attacked and security at churches and mosques in London and elsewhere has been stepped up.
This morning the Pope, who has already apologised for the offence caused by his words and distanced himself from the sentiments of the Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus, will elaborate further on what he intended by last weeks address at Regensburg University in Germany.
At his weekly audience at the Vatican the Pope is expected to emphasise the dangers of violence and fundamentalism in all religions, not just Islam, and reiterate his call for a dialogue of faiths based on mutual respect. The pontiff will explain why he has been misunderstood, Vatican sources said.
Lord Carey, who as Archbishop of Canterbury became a pioneer in Christian-Muslim dialogue, himself quoted a contemporary political scientist, Samuel Huntington, who has said the world is witnessing a clash of civilisations.
Arguing that Huntingtons thesis has some validity, Lord Carey quoted him as saying: Islams borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power.
Lord Carey went on to argue that a deep-seated Westophobia has developed in recent years in the Muslim world.
Lord Carey was delivering a lecture titled The Cross and the Crescent: The Clash of Faiths in an Age of Secularism, at Newbold College, Berkshire.
Lord Carey, who has continued to work in interfaith collaboration since his retirement in 2002, said that the relationship between Islamic countries and the West was the most dangerous, most important and potentially cataclysmic issue of our day. He described the two civilisations as polarised and uncomprehending and said that the Danish cartoons controversy last March showed two world views colliding in public space with no common point of reference.
He said the West had been largely responsible for redrawing the map of the Middle East and it was the moral relativism of the West that has outraged Muslim society. Most Muslims believe firmly that the invasion of Iraq is 2004 was solely about oil, he said.
He went on to defend the Popes fundamental thesis, that reason and religious faith can be compatible. The actual essay is an extraordinarily effective and lucid thesis exploring the weakness of secularism and the way that faith and reason go hand in hand, he said.
He said he agreed with his Muslim friends who claimed that true Islam is not a violent religion, but he wanted to know why Islam today had become associated with violence. The Muslim world must address this matter with great urgency, he said.
And Carey is a liberal!
I hope he doesn't lose his head.
This is good news,IMO.It certainly won't wake up many members of the ROP but it just might help wake up Americans and Europeans who think that this is Bush's...or the US's fault.
I'm stunned! Lord Carey has actually grown a pair.
Conversion and baptism can occur "with great urgency"
It is their only hope.
Good!!!
It's one thing for Muslim's to take offense at the Pope's comments. But when they react violently, they simply prove the Pope's comments true.
This guy's got Ba##s for a liberal Anglican.
Ping.
But the first sums up the Archbishops words "prettily". He's playing at liberal politics.THE former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey of Clifton has issued his own challenge to violent Islam in a lecture in which he defends the Popes extraordinarily effective and lucid speech
"Extraordinarily effective"? The Pope wasn't playing pink politics as the Church of England HAS BEEN DOING. Good sense prevents me from taking his article, line by line, apart -- and baring it for all to see exactly how the Archbishop's words add up. The Archbishop, in his own words, is coming across much like Gallager, traitor of England.
Could also be talking about Marxist.
Uh oh, the crazies won't know who to kill first, the Pope or this fellow.
THE former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey of Clifton has issued his own challenge to violent Islam in a lecture in which he defends the Popes extraordinarily effective and lucid speech. Lord Carey said that Muslims must address with great urgency their religions association with violence.
Uhhh ohhh!! Now he's done it!! This friday = Even More Muslim outrage!!!
All people of courage and conviction and believers that the truth doesn't change, speak up now!
Go ahead,i'm interested.
Quotes like these will will win him friends with the mullahs
CLEVELAND ROCKS!
Oh wait, wrong Carey....sorry!
Perhaps, instead, the Archbishop was "calculatedly" putting forward his hand to meet with those we are defending ourselves against, and work out a deal.
It was he who allowed and permitted this grave injustice to the Church of England.
This silly Infidel thinks this is about worldly gains. If you want to make a better life in this world: turn your back on Allah. Not going to happen, - Tom
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