Carey backs Pope and issues warning on 'violent' Islam

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Speak the truth in love. Eph 4:15

The Church of England has long since made it clear they are NOT interested in respect of or for religions

So what have we got here Alia?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Inform me,I'm a Christmas Catholic.

Bishop Spong's 12 Theses

1. Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. So most theological God-talk is today meaningless. A new way to speak of God must be found.

2. Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.

3. The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.

4. The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes Christ's divinity, as traditionally understood, impossible.

5. The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.

6. The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God and must be dismissed.

7. Resurrection is an action of God. Jesus was raised into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.

8. The story of the Ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post-Copernican space age.

9. There is no external, objective, revealed standard writ in scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.

10. Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way.

11. The hope for life after death must be separated forever from the behavior control mentality of reward and punishment. The Church must abandon, therefore, its reliance on guilt as a motivator of behavior.

12. All human beings bear God's image and must be respected for what each person is. Therefore, no external description of one's being, whether based on race, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation, can properly be used as the basis for either rejection or discrimination.

Spong ends this article by saying: "So I set these theses today before the Christian world and I stand ready to debate each of them as we prepare to enter the third millennium."

Anti-religion brought to you by the ECUSA an American Franchise of the Church of England

I've just written a screed in response. I think you might be looking for a far more simple answer. :) Read on, if you like, or simply ignore:

The Church of England has become the pathway for the largest bit of religious domination and oppression of its members. Here in America, the Church of England for many centuries found its home in Episocopalian churches, and next, Methodists, and Baptist. No longer. The Traditional Anglican Church has moved "out" of England. It can be found in every country in the world. The Church of England and the Episcopal Church joined hands many years ago in subverting doctrine, and grabbing real estate.

In 1994, a major fire erupted at Windsor castle. And prior to that, parts of the Castle's goods had been sold to make payments due. Soon after that mysterious fire, never quite "solved", The Church of England enacted QUOTAS upon the clergy. Solid, traditional Anglican Priests were hurled out of the church to make way for "female" priests.

Traditional Anglican Churches and the Roman Catholic Church here in America made room for these Priests. And they were healed. Many have since returned to England.

Prime Minister Blair, this good man, declared a year back that he was considering leaving the Church of England for becoming Roman Catholic, as the Roman Catholic church was far more representative of his faith. I had hoped he might; full well knowing he would not.

Prime Minister Blair loves his country with as much logos, pathos, and ethos as President Bush loves his own country.

The Church of England has become, alongside and with its phony "National Council and World Council of Churches" principally involved as a shadow operation to push the secularized agenda of the socialist/marxist left upon the world -- principally through means of "legalizations" and economic starvation of any churches who resist and desist the demand they SUBMIT to the vagaries of the Liberal Left. The secularized left uses its "holy robes" instead to carry very secretive items to usurpers in other countries: Wolves in sheep's clothing. They appear via the MSM all the time. And via blogs, and emails. They appear Christian, and perhaps at some level they are; but they are adamant about forcing their views down the throats of others. If not with a smiling face, than through BAD LAWS. One way or another, they march with boots which crush.

I am not Roman Catholic by practice, but near enough to do what many should be doing in this day and age who dare to consider themselves as ANGLICANS and EPISCOPALIANS, METHODISTS, BAPTISTS, PRESBYTERIANS, JEWS -- we all come from the same vine. Stand fast! And that vine has been infiltrated by "religious fascists" to the secular order. Their reach has grown so far as to attain the level of "political influence" and "power brokering". They've encouraged this attack through pushing their "liberal dogma" by political and economic means upon our neighbors in their countries.

And now these dogs dare to pretend to come forward to seize a "cornerstone" in this pinnacle dialogue beginning? To tear the Bible into two parts is what they wish to accomplish. And the rest of their wicked plans are what we read about in the news. "A Clash", A War, please bring on this year's model in a "holy robe" to speak to the world.

So many people see the 666 as only coming /arising out of the mid-east. As in, "Mid-east descent".

Look further. And be very aware.

The True Traditional Anglican Church may not at this moment be "Located' directly in England, but it stands firmly against what the "Church of England" and their Episcopalianettes have been up to. Traditional Angelican churches are very much alive and well throughout the world. And they miss not a single trick the deceivers are up to. It is they who wish this war, while declaring this war "unjust". It is they who sneak around and plant bad laws and bad policies while loudly exclaiming "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.. "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!". They are one the same defiling, degrading apparatus which wishes NOT peace, but fulfillment of self through the attainment of POWER and dictatorial positioning.

Thanks for asking, nonetheless. :)

Pinging you to my above post; if you can see to a more "educated" response, I'd appreciate it. :)

Very important here is the statement by mehmet ali agca. I believe he is mentally ill, al all islamists are, but he does speak the truth sometimes. We were not very aware of radical islam when John Paul was shot and the media covered up the true reason for the attempt on the life of the Holy Father. The kgb very well have been using agca for their own reasons, as communists are using the islamists today to strike at us, but islam had it's own reason for wanting the Pope murdered.

What other religion would do this? Only when islam is shown as a satan worshipping cult will this war end.