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Americans are paying a huge amount of money.
The Oregonian

Posted on 09/18/2006 6:16:11 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb

Oregon City - Killer's re-sentencing: $450,257.78

The bills are in: The defense of serial killer Dayton Leroy Rogers in his third sentencing trial cost Oregon taxpayers $450,257.78.

Rogers' attorneys submitted their bills to the Office of Public Defense Services, which this month tallied them at the request of The Oregonian.

During a seven-week trial that ended in March, Rogers' defense team argued for life in prison, but a 12-person jury sentenced him to death. Rogers had twice been sentenced to death for the 1987 murders of six women, whose bodies he dumped in the Molalla area woods, but the Oregon Supreme Court had twice overturned those sentences, while letting his conviction stand.

Kathryn Aylward, director of contract and business services for the public defense office, said information on the total cost of defending Rogers since 1987 wasn't readily available. Rogers' case is being automatically appealed to the Oregon Supreme Court, the first in a 10-step process that could take 10 or 15 more years.


TOPICS: US: Oregon; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: killhimnow; killhimyesterday; moralabsolutes; mostevil; oregon; serialkillers; zotmeplease
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To: Smoke Bomb

sorry wrong post. I meant to post this to Larry.


21 posted on 09/18/2006 7:23:15 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: Larry Lucido

Man this site is making me dizzy. I keep posting to the wrong person or myself LOL! Anyway how do you get ahold of the mods? My daughter was messing around with my PC all weekend and she really messed it up. I can't do anything with it now. I guess I'll have to crash it and restore it. God only knows what the heck she did here.


22 posted on 09/18/2006 7:25:56 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: teenyelliott

a bullet costs $ .35


23 posted on 09/18/2006 7:58:28 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: TexasNative2000

"Sounds series."

'Tis series indeed. The costs are Hugh. And the taxpayers are about to talk to Hughy & Ralph.

Stand well clear of the lee rail during that talk.


24 posted on 09/18/2006 8:06:12 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: sandbar
"So at what point does a person have the 'right' to not burn up my money while getting extra days that those six women did not get?"

That point never arrives because if it did, the lawyers would not be able to add to their "billable hours". You tryin' to take money from deservin' laawyers? HUHHH?

Lawyers got rights!

;-(
25 posted on 09/18/2006 8:09:34 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: GladesGuru

LOL


26 posted on 09/18/2006 8:32:04 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: Smoke Bomb

You can just add Admin Moderator to the "To:" box, or for a faster response you can hit the "abuse" button on yourself and write a quick note explaining what you need. Don't worry, "self abuse" isn't frowned on around here. LOL!


27 posted on 09/18/2006 8:56:01 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Thanks Larry... :-)


28 posted on 09/18/2006 9:38:23 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: GladesGuru

I'm a lawyer and when I was first starting out in private practice I used to do a lot of these court appointed cases. They were barely worth the effort. Whatever bills you submit, they end up getting chopped down to next to nothing. You bill for everything you can think of knowing this will happen. I'd never get all my hours and all my expenses paid on these cases. Shoot, some of the judges used to only appoint people they were mad at it seems, and once you are appointed there is pretty much no getting out of these cases. I doubt these guys get paid anywhere near what they billed, and I don't doubt that they invested an enormous number of man hours from both the attorneys and their staff members, and they probably had huge expenses too. This seven weeks in trial only represents a very small fraction of the work performed on this case. Attorneys do not get rich handling court appointed criminal cases. In many cases what attorneys actually end up getting paid on these cases doesn't even cover their expenses. Things vary from state to state, but I wouldn't be surprised if the attorneys on this case actually collect far less than what they billed.


29 posted on 09/18/2006 9:42:53 AM PDT by TKDietz (")
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To: TKDietz
HI TK... Yeah I know exactly what you mean. I am presently helping a team of lawyers with a Capitol Case. You are absolutely right. I don't know where this money goes but it sure does NOT go to the attorneys. Some of it does but the ones I am working with are only getting a fraction of this total cost. I wonder who is getting all of the rest of the moneys. Thanks for sharing that. :-)
30 posted on 09/18/2006 10:49:02 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: Smoke Bomb
Justice delayed is justice denied and lawyers enriched.
31 posted on 09/18/2006 10:55:31 AM PDT by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: TKDietz
I think a lot of the moneys goes to things like getting a person to fly from NY to LA for a character witness and putting them up in a hotel and this and that. The medical examiner, psychs and all the OTHER people that are involved with these trials. Attorneys? HUH! NADA.... They work around the clock and they don't work by the hour on these court appointed cases, they work for a certain amount of moneys. The ones I am working with are so backlogged that they need help just staying caught up. It is ironic that the lay person has no clue about the justice system. They don't have a clue that just to execute ONE person cost over a million dollars. That is after all of the other millions that are spent on appeals. Life if prison is a much better and cost effective way to go for everyone involved. Just my opinion but from what I understand being on death row in some states is better than living out here in a condo. They have a lot more than the general population does, the public just has no clue.
32 posted on 09/18/2006 10:56:17 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: Smoke Bomb

IBTZ?


33 posted on 09/18/2006 10:56:50 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: TKDietz

Do you do Capitol cases?


34 posted on 09/18/2006 11:47:59 AM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: HOTTIEBOY
a bullet costs $ .35

Let the con handload his own, that will cut costs.

35 posted on 09/18/2006 11:49:20 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (1 year guarantee against congenital defects.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I don't think they let them have guns in prison :-)


36 posted on 09/18/2006 4:35:43 PM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: Smoke Bomb

I think lawyers should be treated like physicians. In order to use the government court house they must "have someone on call". The on call lawyers MUST take any indigent person case who presents to the court house without funds to pay for their own care. Let us see how they would like that. The government will pay said on call lawyer a set fee for global legal fees. Oh like 1,000.00 about what I get payed for 9 months of maternity care with deliver no matter the complications during that time and no matter vaginal delivery in 20 minutes or C/S for emergency fetal distress at 0300 with mother bleding out and anethesia 20 minutes away.


37 posted on 09/18/2006 6:43:05 PM PDT by therut
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To: Smoke Bomb

I've helped with a couple but I haven't been lead attorney on one yet. I'd just as soon never have any of those. They take up all your time. It's a little different where I live though. We don't have that many murders and there hasn't been a death penalty case tried in my county in years. All our trials are short too. I don't think there has ever been even a death penalty case in my county that has taken more than four days to try, at least none in the last fifteen years or so that I can remember. Some have been completed in one day, with the jury being selected in the morning and not being released until late in the evening when they finally have their verdict on sentencing. Still, an enormous amount of work is done on those cases during the months leading up to the trial. There are a lot of motions going back and forth, a lot of procedural matters and little hearings that need to be handled, just a lot of hoops specific to death penalty cases that lawyers have to jump through. I have over a hundred felony clients facing up to life in prison and I handle piles and piles of misdemeanor and juvenile cases. I can barely find the time to handle those. I'd never be able to handle my current caseload if I had any death penalty cases.


38 posted on 09/18/2006 8:02:21 PM PDT by TKDietz (")
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To: therut

Your entitled to your opinion. :-)


39 posted on 09/18/2006 8:03:39 PM PDT by Smoke Bomb
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To: Smoke Bomb; Darksheare; MikefromOhio; darkwing104
Some of us are having a difficult time ascertaining the precise gist of this diatribe. We do have opinions. Mine happens to involve ozone. Your mileage WILL vary.
40 posted on 09/18/2006 8:07:46 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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