Posted on 09/15/2006 5:56:19 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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Brain: Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Pinky: I think so Brain; but where are we going to get a duck and a hose at this hour?
THAT'S a keeper!
Following your advice, they would be passe by now. Something called overexposure.
He spent 7 years having to listen to bad music ---or things ( by his formulation) "just like that." Big fricken deal, so does every Marine.
They bitch because the military used loud music on the blood thirsty terrorists, but where were these people when our own government used sleep deprivation and loud music on American Christians at Waco?
And try to hold my blood pressure down while I do it.
Hey
It will matter to the American people and then we can obviously step out and say that nothing but the hanging and quartering of President Bush would make them happy.
That would be a great commercial.
It's lame to claim that the President is rewriting Common Article Three of the Geneva Conventions. I haven't read anything from any of these four GOP senators that qualifies even remotely as an argument. Their comments thus far are simply rhetorical in nature, yet look suspiciously like and have the form of a sound bite. How on Earth can giving examples of torture be the same thing as pulling out of the Geneva Conventions or rewriting Article Three?
I have read this Common Article Three and it's something I can live with because I can recognize torture when I see it. However, the problem is that we are no longer working with people that can reason. We live in a world where the enemy redefines words and concepts to fit their agenda. I see the President trying to protect our soldiers by saying "you can do A, but you cannot do B, and if the people of Belgium want to claim "A" is a crime, I'll back you, not the confectionaries.
I'm about as fed up with McCain and his Vietnam-POW moral standing as I am over Kerry and his Christmas in Cambodia tale. Forty years ago I'm sure Senator McCain would have been happy to listen to The Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Yep, and to cover himself when necessary, he plays both sides of the fence in a manner reminiscent of Gengiz Hillary. The man is a snake and I'll never defend him again.
Then don't listen to the Senate .. Reid and Durbin are yapping about a do nothing republican congress and president
Mornin' :-)
"Regarding McCain's latest jack-ass move....that settles it - I will under no circumstances votes for the wackjob in 2008, even if he is the GOP nominee."
If it's been Hillary and McCain, I'd vote for Hillary - and I'm 100% serious.
McCain has done more damage to our party (and American society) than anyone else I can think of - if he's ever given a position of power in it (other than in his own head), the party's OVER.
I'd prefer to have a RAT in there - at least we'd have an enemy on the OTHER side, then, rather than an enemy within.
Do the "soldiers" in Iraq or Afghanistan hold one American POW?
Thanks for the ping...looking forward to it.
John's credit for having served is wearing very thin with me. Guys like John Murtha and John McCain disgrace the uniform they used to wear IMO. Those that wear those uniforms today, are paying a heavy price because of those who run interference for Al Qaeda, the Taliban and other terrorist organizations.
Bush argues terrorism case after Republican revolt
Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:36 AM ET
By Steve Holland
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush, faced with a revolt by a group of Republican allies over treatment of foreign terrorism suspects, scheduled a news conference on Friday to argue his case.
The White House said Bush would appear in the Rose Garden at 11:15 a.m. (1515 GMT).
Bush goes before reporters a day after a Senate Committee rejected the president's pleas that legislation on foreign terrorists allow CIA interrogators to use tough interrogation methods.
Instead, the Senate Armed Services Committee voted 15-9 to endorse an alternative bill by Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain that would protect the rights of foreign terrorism suspects.
McCain, Virginia Republican Sen. John Warner and South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham made up the core of the rebellion against Bush and engineered the vote despite a personal visit by the president on Thursday.
Hours after Bush went to Capitol Hill to urge fellow Republicans to back his proposals for military commissions to put terrorism suspects on trial, the committee approved its own bill, which it said would meet demands of the U.S. Supreme Court that struck down Bush's original plan.
White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush on Friday "will reiterate his commitment to a military commission process that provides a legal pathway to bringing terror suspects to justice and his commitment to a CIA program that has been an invaluable source of intelligence, has foiled numerous terror plots and has saved many American lives."
The vote set up a legislative showdown during an election year in which Republicans hope to protect control of both houses of the U.S. Congress by appearing strong on fighting terrorism.
The main debate was over White House efforts to write definitions of what would be inhumane treatment under the Geneva Conventions to give CIA interrogators guidelines on what interrogation methods may be used for a program it credits for breaking up eight terrorism plots.
Snow said the Geneva Conventions' Common Article 3 is vague and must be clarified to protect CIA interrogators from prosecution. The CIA will be forced to shut down its "high value terrorist detention" program if protections are not codified, he said.
The dust-up between Bush and his Republican allies came at a time when Bush is arguing for strong protections against the threat of terrorism, with the fifth anniversary of the September 11 fresh in Americans' minds before November congressional elections.
The Washington Post wrote in an editorial on Friday that Bush was basically lobbying for torture and that the CIA wants permission to interrogate detainees "with abusive practices that in the past have included induced hypothermia and 'waterboarding,' or simulated drowning."
The committee bill would require that defendants have access to classified evidence used against them, limit the use of hearsay evidence and restrict the use of evidence obtained by coercion.
THAT is the most apropos cartoon I have seen in a long time.
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