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Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib ["The Americans were better...]
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9/10/06 | Ali Saber and Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 09/09/2006 5:33:23 PM PDT by saquin

The notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad is at the centre of fresh abuse allegations just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities, with claims that inmates are being tortured by their new captors.

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Access to the part of the prison containing terrorism suspects was denied, but from that block came the sound of screaming. The screaming continued for a long time.

"I am sure someone was being beaten, they were screaming like they were being hit," the witness reported. "I felt scared, I was asking what was happening in the terrorist section.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves. I was hearing the screams throughout the visit."

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Outside the prison, relatives of some of the inmates said they were being tortured by their captors. One woman, who gave her name as Omsaad, said: "My son Saad [who was arrested in Fallujah as a suspected insurgent] said he is being tortured by the Iraqis to confess the name of his leader. I met my son and he told me they were being treated badly by the Iraqis."

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

"The people are Iraqis and they are members of the Sciri and al Dawa parties. They have a good relationship with the leaders of the jail and they keep quiet," he said. The guards swore at the ordinary prisoners, he said, but those in the terrorist section were treated more brutally.

"The guards were swearing at us, but in the terrorist section they were beating them. I heard it all the time. Everyone knows what is happening."

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

One officer, Capt Ali Abdelzaher, said: "We have a problem with the financing for the food, not like the Americans, and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning."

Capt Abdelzaher also confirmed that a number of inmates had been transferred from the Jadriyah detention centre, along with their guards and interrogators.

Graphic stories of abuse at that previously secret facility emerged after US soldiers found 169 prisoners showing signs of torture last November.

Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport.

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; bleedinghearattack; gwot; iraq; nuketheleft; schadenfreude; waronterror; wot
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To: csvset
"They're probably cursing Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin." Yep. Just like the ten million dead Southeast Asians did after Fat Bastard Kennedy led the treasonous Democrats in forcing America to abandon them. Once a worthless leftist POS, always a worthless leftist POS.
101 posted on 09/09/2006 8:30:30 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Leftism: preoperational egocentrism with a gun)
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To: saquin
'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back.

But... but... they tortured you, remember?

102 posted on 09/09/2006 8:30:45 PM PDT by beckysueb (KOmmies are really nothing but DUmmies with better PR.)
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To: saquin

They better watch out or they will hear from the likes of "The Drunk, Lurch and Plastic Face"


103 posted on 09/09/2006 8:31:11 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: saquin
There is a larger issue involved here and it's clear that the predictions regarding payback that many of us made at the outset of hostilities weren't false, they were only delayed.

I'm only surprised it took as long as it has, a tribute to the virtues of the U.S. and allied armed forces who have given the country what civil order it has. Saddam had a readily recognizable elite that was absolutely brutal to non-members. The people it brutalized are now in charge. Their desire for revenge isn't going to be dissuaded by noble sentiment, and the point at which we turn the running of their country back over to them has arrived. This sort of thing is likely to get worse before it gets better, if ever.

104 posted on 09/09/2006 8:33:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: saquin

darn the luck


105 posted on 09/09/2006 8:33:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: saquin

Prediction: The New York times won't run this on their front page 43 times.


106 posted on 09/09/2006 8:34:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: SampleMan
The liberals must be thrilled. The prisoners are being treated according to muslim tradition.

Allah Aardvark,.. or something like that.
107 posted on 09/09/2006 8:37:06 PM PDT by Borian (Don't mess with Texas...)
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To: SampleMan

ROTFLMPO...

Boo-Hoo... :-)


108 posted on 09/09/2006 8:40:21 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: ishabibble
What? They've taken the Lemon Chicken off the dinner menu?

I hear the Brazed Shallot Pork and Mushroom-Cream Crepes have been pulled as well!!!! Ohhhhhh, don't take the after dinner mints! Barbarians! What do you think this is? A prison??!!
109 posted on 09/09/2006 8:46:56 PM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: FairOpinion
The prisoners are TERRORISTS! Hellooo.

They're not. These are ordinary Iraqi criminals. Any terrorists that are caught are transferred to Guantanamo. This was the original problem when techniques originally approved for Guantanamo "migrated" to Abu Ghraib where they were not supposed to be used on non-terrorists.

110 posted on 09/09/2006 9:09:23 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: saquin

Do muslims have any idea whatsoever about what total and utter barbarians they are???


111 posted on 09/10/2006 6:04:28 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: saquin

Nothing ever changes in that part of the world.

The best we can hope for is the thugs learn to leave us alone. And that is all can ever expect.


112 posted on 09/10/2006 6:13:36 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: saquin
About the only consolation that we would have for leaving Iraq is that the Baathists would be no more.

These butchers deserve each other and their 14th century lifestyle.


BUMP

113 posted on 09/10/2006 6:22:16 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: KantianBurke

Amen, brother (or sister).


114 posted on 09/10/2006 6:26:14 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: KantianBurke
we need to exit post haste

What's this we stuff? Are you having tea with John Murtha or do you have a mouse in your pocket?
115 posted on 09/10/2006 6:43:08 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Borian
Allah Aardvark

Now that's funny. If islamofacists need a good spot in the yellow pages, you've put your finger on it.

Or perhaps "AAA Allah Aardvark Terrorism Classes and Used Camels"?

116 posted on 09/10/2006 7:22:17 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: FreedomCalls
They're not. These are ordinary Iraqi criminals. Any terrorists that are caught are transferred to Guantanamo. This was the original problem when techniques originally approved for Guantanamo "migrated" to Abu Ghraib where they were not supposed to be used on non-terrorists.

We only have a few hundred terrorists in Gitmo. Almost all of the terrorists caught in Iraq stay in Iraq. As a standard proposition, we don't want them. Its much better to have the Iraqi government shooting them, than for us to lock them up for life.

117 posted on 09/10/2006 7:25:26 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: saquin

Ah...the "good old days"...

118 posted on 09/10/2006 7:27:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: i_dont_chat
I dunno, but I bet the "torture" of wearing panties on your head has GOT to be better than having a soldering iron jammed in your squeakhole.

I bet they're missing those Hanes for Women now.

119 posted on 09/10/2006 7:27:46 AM PDT by Malacoda (Bu**er Islam)
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To: G3

The traitorous Durban will say nothing because being a member of the minority he has no say in anything.


120 posted on 09/10/2006 7:29:27 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
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