Where Are The Secret Jails, The EU Demands

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-9-2006 | Alec Russell

[blam]

Where are secret jails, the EU demands

By Alec Russell in Washington

(Filed: 08/09/2006)

European politicians yesterday called on Washington to reveal the sites of the CIA's secret prisons after President George W Bush's admission that terrorist prisoners had been held in clandestine foreign jails.

As Mr Bush hit the road to sell Wednesday's revelation of the "black sites" to the American public as a victory for his anti-terrorist policies, European politicians stepped up the pressure for further details.

"The location of these prison camps must be made public," said Wolfgang Kreissl-Dörfler, a member of the European Parliament's committee investigating the CIA's alleged use of sites in Eastern Europe. "We need to know if there has been any complicity in illegal acts by governments of EU countries or of states seeking EU membership."

Allegations that the CIA held and tortured terrorist suspects in secret Eastern European prisons provoked fury in Europe last year and intensified already virulent anti-Americanism.

But in America the debate has been more muted and yesterday, far from being cowed or contrite as many European politicians expected, Mr Bush sought to capitalise on the impact of his statement.

In a speech in Atlanta, the latest in a series building up to Monday's anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, he argued that he had made America safer than it was five years ago. And in an address on Wednesday he said 14 top al-Qa'eda figures had been transferred from the secret prisons to Guantanamo Bay awaiting trial.

Mr Bush is hoping to secure the future of the Guantanamo Bay detention centre by getting Congress to approve a law authorising the tribunals.

[Paladin2]

"The location of these prison camps must be made public"

No, you first. Where's your burka and where's Binny?

[SC Swamp Fox]

The prisons are in Shangrala.

[divine_moment_of_facts]

This is for you, EU!

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[anthropos]

I have to say that if they were in European countries (or any other country for that matter) and the governments of said countries were not aware of them, then they do have the right to be upset. If, however, say an intelligence agency of said country knew but the PM, president, whatever, didn't, too bad...plausible deniability and all that is good, sometimes.

My guess is that wherever they were, the governments knew all about them...though frankly I probably think that they were either on ships (which is where I would've put them...international waters, none of this nonsense to deal with) or some small island, as someone else suggested.

[farlander]

... where they have them run on hamster wheels powering the Rove Hurricane Machine.

[sgtbono2002]

Why didnt we just drown the whole bunch and claim they were on Wake island when the storm struck.

[tillacum]

"If we tell you, then we'll have to kill you." No, dearie, not KILL, "If we tell you, we'll have to make you disapear.". I just sounds nicer and more European. They have all the manners, you know, we're just Americans. new arrivals.

[Paladin2]

They are not prisons (and with the quantity of holdees, certainly not camps). They're spas and salons.

If you want to know where the spas are, you have to ask nice.

[himno hero]

the sooner they recognize that this war is their business.... and future too, the sooner we will be on the path to success.

this war is targeting members of the G8: those who have generated demonstrated economic and political progress. there is jealousy, envy, failure and frustration at play as the islamic way has not been able to generate nor deliver progress.

sure the EU can lay down to the demands generated by the islamic nation but if they continue schmoozed to sleep, the last few awake will have their throats cut.

its high time they recognize that its their war too

[GOP_Party_Animal]

"The location of these prison camps must be made public," said Wolfgang Kreissl-Dörfler...

They're in Dachau, you crazy kraut.

[shield]

Good grief...where do you think they are? In Iraq,'Stan and Pak...so what's the problem with that you appeasers?

[444Flyer]

I am sorry..."We know nothingenschtein!!"

[Enchante]

I'm for dropping terrorist prisoners over each and every EU nation from 20,000 feet without a parachute. Every EU weenie leader can have at least one dead terrorist of their own to cuddle with at night..... you want more info? Here, we'll give you the bleepin' corpses of the scumbags for your own personal enjoyment.

[bannie]

To receive that information you have to have two things: The correct security clearance and the need to know.

[JasonC]

They yawn when Iran gets nukes and blows raspberries at them all day long, but when they even think the US may have harmed a hair on a terrorists whittle head, they go ballistic. Earth to EU - get Iran to tell you. The torturer in charge of that country, who you are offering huge bribes to, is your new best and only ally.

[eeevil conservative]

"The location of these prison camps must be made public," said Wolfgang Kreissl-Dörfler, a member of the European Parliament's committee investigating the CIA's alleged use of sites in Eastern Europe. "We need to know if there has been any complicity in illegal acts by governments of EU countries or of states seeking EU membership."

ILLEGAL ACTS?

Wolfgang is concerned about countries SEEKING membership being involved in ILLEGAL acts?

Do the words "Oil for Food" ring a bell?

not much of a membership list left if THIS is your concern there Wolffie.....

ya really just cannot make this stuff up......

[JasonC]

Nope, they have no right to anything. Useless appeasers kissing the backside of notorious murderers don't deserve the time of day.

[MinuteGal]

Ahem.....why does my mind wander back to the mid-seventies when a number of members of the radical urban terrorist Baader-Meinhof gang were all found dead in their individual German prison cells while awaiting trial?

The official explanation from the German government was that they committed mass suicide. Concurrent investigations proved this could not have been the case.

Of course, the whole thing was whitewashed, and nobody really cared because no one was all that crazy about radical urban bomb-throwers, anyhow.

Germany's history on political prisoners and prisons of all kinds should give them pause to criticize ours.

Leni

[madison10]

he sooner they recognize that this war is their business.... and future too, the sooner we will be on the path to success.

The war is their business, knowing all sorts of secrets that they can blab to our enemies, is not. ;)

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

"European politicians yesterday called on Washington to reveal the sites of the CIA's secret prisons after President George W Bush's admission that terrorist prisoners had been held in clandestine foreign jails."

So. If they spent more time minding their own business instead of ours, they might not be the spineless little worms that they are...