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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 3 September 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 3 September 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 09/03/2006 5:01:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, September 3rd, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., and Arlen Specter, R-Pa.; Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and his Democratic challenger, state treasurer Robert Casey.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean; Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.; Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R-R.I., and his primary challenger, Cranston Mayor Stephen Laffey; actress and animal rights activist Bo Derek.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn.; Iraqi deputy prime minister Barham Salih; Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iranian representative to the International Atomic Energy Agency; Teamsters president James Hoffa and Labor Secretary Elaine Chao; former Clinton adviser Lanny Davis and former Bush campaign strategist Matthew Dowd.


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To: Laverne

I see. That may be it. Thanks.


681 posted on 09/03/2006 12:55:04 PM PDT by Bahbah (Goldwasser, Regev and Shalit, we are praying for you...)
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To: federal
I've seen a lot of listed reasons for the duration of the war against Germany, however I haven't seen what I consider to be the most relevant. The German Nazi's had already shot their load in Russia and by the time of Normandy they were already losing.

I was referring to the 6 years post war to secure the peace, and the 40 subsequent years the troops remained. Let history be our guide. Someone needs to ask the dems if our Germany and Japan policy was a quagmire and a dismal failure. Using their logic, keeping troops in Germany and Japan just 3 1/2 years securing the peace instead of decades would have been a more intelligent military strategy. That's what they're suggesting in Iraq, an area far more volatile and less industrialized.

682 posted on 09/03/2006 12:55:08 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: MNJohnnie

I saw your post about Chuckie not reading the book about the Iraq stategy...

You might be surprised how LITTLE Senators actually read..

Sen. Jeff Sessions admitted on the Senate floor last spring that the Senators do NOT read the legislation they are voting on...their aides do..and when it is time for a vote on a particular bill or amendment, their aide TELLS them how to vote..

I am sure that isn't 100% of the time, for 100% of the Senators...but I wouldn't be surprised if the Dems purposely didn't read that so they would have the "plausible deniability" if ever asked why they voted this or that way...when it is written right there in that book..


683 posted on 09/03/2006 12:55:18 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL))))))))) Steve and Olaf have been released...pray for the release of the Israelis..)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Look, there's way more to this Plame thing than a silly political attempt to get at Bush. That may have been the intent of some of the players in this money-wasting drama but it goes deeper.

Judith Miller and Fitzgerald have a strange history. Miller is being investigated for her participation in the warning of an Islamic charity that had that same charity warned in advance of an impending raid due to Miller's advance phone call. Fitzgerald was in charge of that investigation as well. His people managed to "lose" a lot of damning information on that Islamic charity and this incident happened the DAY AFTER 9/11/06. I've got some far out notions about Fitzgerald and how deep he is into this but already he's filed to force Miller to reveal her source that the Islamic charity was about to be raided. Off the top of my head I think Fitz was using this Libby investigation to get her to reveal more information than warranted about the Plame revelation.

This whole thing was a blatant, perhaps desperate, attempt to STOP the war with Iraq. Other players had different motives, perhaps, but Joe Wilson speaks fluent French and spent a lot of time hobnobbing with the French. Somebody orchestrated that whole op-ed thing with Joe Wilson and may I remind that the very act of sending this sleazy has-been to Niger was the work of his wife Val Plame who got SOMEBODY in the CIA to approve it.

I think it's about the Clintons and Iraq's oil-for-food program and a bunch of somebodies on through the chain of command that would be in danger should our plan to take down Saddam continue. There are just so many tentacles in this thing, many common tentacles.

Judith Miller was a good buddy of disgraced, exiled Iraq leader Chalibi, some suggest she was veeeeery good buddies. I didn't want to mention my theories upthread but I'll throw them out now.

This Plame affair and the millions spent on it are about far more than I think we now know. The NY Times was a willing participant in what was an attempt to STOP our intended invasion of Iraq. Recall that this all came through right before we invaded Iraq...in early 2003 as I recall.

Will we ever know all the details? I dunno. But like Libby wrote to Miller....the aspen trees in Colorado all change color at the same time as their roots are interconnected.

God knows who's paying off Fitzgerald but this guy has some splaining to do. Again, will the manly men of congress look into this?

And again, who the hell knows?

684 posted on 09/03/2006 12:56:13 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: AliVeritas

In that article that you linked to about Khatami's visit and speech last night...

The line that just stuck out to me, from the article was this one:

"He said American Muslims, 'through active participation in the social arena' can form lobbying groups and form a consensus with other Americans."

This is right out of the their manifesto...to take down America from within, using our political and social system.


685 posted on 09/03/2006 1:02:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL))))))))) Steve and Olaf have been released...pray for the release of the Israelis..)
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To: maica
It is well understood that many career folks at State identify with the countries or organizations where they serve rather than with the mission of America's interests.

Nonsense. We identify with America and take great pride in representing our country. We are just as concerned about America's interests as other citizens. To insinuate that we are not loyal Americans does a great disservice to the sacrfices many of my colleagues have made to the defense of this country, including their lives. I have worked and lived in seven different countries and never found anyone who didn't identify with America in pursuit of our national interests.

One example: people resigned when Yugoslavia broke up because they had loyalties to the Croatian 'desk' or the 'Serbian' desk rather than to American policy vis a vis Yugoslavia.

LOL. Where do you come up with this nonsense? Some FSO's did resign because they disagreed with our policy. It was the principled thing to do. Warren Zimmerman, a former COM in Yugoslavia, was one such person.

686 posted on 09/03/2006 1:04:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: malia
I got to love the Neo Isolationists clowns at NRO. Mike Leedeen after trash talking the mission in Iraq for years and spending the last year ranting how "foolish" a military strike on Iran would be, NOW thinks it would some how achieve something by refusing to talk to the Iranians! Say Mikey, quit making the absurd hyper hysteric fraudulent historical analogies. Your attempted analogy between Gobbles and Khatami are was pure hysterics. The absurdity of the statement is intellectual flatulence and he knows it.

Grow up NRO. War is a continuation of politics by other means. With 50% or more of the the American people all ready expressing doubts about Iraq, thanks to the Junk Media and the Democrats endless seditious propagandizing, the Bush Administration is having to jump thru all these diplomatic hoops over Iran to try and build domestic concensus for action

At this time the Bush Administration has neither the domestic consensus nor the votes in Congress for anything other action.

Simply absurd how the Neo Isolationists keep fantasizing how if the US simply turns the cold solder and ignores the Iranian rulers some how the Iranian people will magically rise up and rescue the Neo Isolationists from having to do anything about the problem.

NOT one authoritarian regime has ever been over thrown by it's own inhabitants without the active support, and a threat by, some external power. The idea that a revolution will spontaneously break out some day in Iran if the US just continue to sit on it butt and wish it is absurd nonsense dreamed up by senile old "Realists". The same "realist" in the US Political Establishment who did NOTHING about the growing thread of Islamic Fundamentalism for 3 decades hoping it would go away.

687 posted on 09/03/2006 1:04:31 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Democrats: Party of Sedition, Segregation and Slavery.)
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To: samantha

I only used the Nazis to forestall the "you can't kill 1.8 billion people arguement." If you like, take the Japanese. There you have the religious component you desire.
I am well aware of the mufti/Hitler connection.
I just do not believe in 'good moslems,' period.
See my #624


688 posted on 09/03/2006 1:04:52 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: johnny7
Image hosted by Photobucket.com tooo funny... spell check doesn't always help. 8^)
689 posted on 09/03/2006 1:05:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: MNJohnnie; rodguy911
A Single Post Award courtesy of Rodguy911


690 posted on 09/03/2006 1:08:24 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: sgtyork
As to letting in Saudi students in and our valued strategic relationship with this 'non-state supporter of terrorism'; I know we are trying to be nuanced, but have we seen any progress?

How many terrorists attacks on US soil have been pulled since 09-11-01?

Why is it the bulk of the fighting, and the vast bulk of the dying, on OUR side of the war is being done by Muslim Iraqis, Pakistanis and Afghanis?

691 posted on 09/03/2006 1:08:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Democrats: Party of Sedition, Segregation and Slavery.)
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To: Torie

I wish I had watched it. It ain't over yet.


692 posted on 09/03/2006 1:09:46 PM PDT by crasher
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To: Morgan in Denver
#584, There are plenty of things that she has said that are not fact,but opinion, If I was in her position I might be a bomb thrower also,it sells more books and it certainly gets the attention of the Cretins in the DBM. She is courageous at times,intelligent,profound in her thinking,and does not take any crap off anyone. even though she can be very harsh and accusatory she still remains a Lady,unlike any of the DemocRAT women with one or two exceptions. Jane Harman comes to mind,but she sounded lady like but very stupid. The same goes for DIFI,ladylike but addle brained. I think some of Ann's behavior left a lot to be desired with the viciousness that she leveled at the President and his appointees,and other Pubbies. She was very hormonal,and since I have met with the Lady I was very shocked at her behavior because in person she is a very pleasant, nice,attractive,witty,funny,bubbly,personable, and very Proud Republican Woman. She did not let her anger or temper show,she was cool under a little hostile question or two. This was almost three Years ago,and People change hormones change. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
693 posted on 09/03/2006 1:11:53 PM PDT by samantha (cheer up, the Adults are in charge,but need Reserves really fast)
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
Mark Kilmer has posted his review of the Sunday Shows over at RedState.COM

Posted at 11:55am on Sep. 3, 2006

The Sunday Morning Talk Shows - Review

including Santorum vs. Casey on MTP

By Mark Kilmer

Sunday, September 3, 2006.

{This review is dedicated to the memory of Joe Wilson's time in the limelight and to the erstwhile "scandal" which bore his name.}

Rick Santorum "debated" Bobby Casey junior on NBC's Meet the Press, but it was really Russert vs. Santorum, with Casey along for decoration, and Santorum won.

The there's FOX NEWS Sunday, where Liddy Dole got Chuckie Schumer to agree to take her to dinner. For his part, Schumer demanded that the White House apologize for leaking Plame's name. He's not sure it was Armitage who leaked it, but he knows for a fact that "Karl Rove leaked it too."

Arlen Specter on FNS said that the nomination of Judge Terence Boyle "does have big trouble."

On TW, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Joe Biden, said that he didn't know if we had helped foil the recent terror plot involving airplanes exploding over the Atlantic, but that it was proof that the Bush Administration had done nothing to make our country safer from terrorism.

On FTN, DNC boss Howard Dean, talking about his party's electoral chances this November, proclaimed: "We're going to win in places like Indiana! We're going to win in places like Arizona! [YEAAARRRRGH!]" (He set himself up.)

Also on FTN, GOP Senate Whip Mitch McConnell announced that the Senate agenda this September will be "entirely about national security."

And on LE, it was Shays-Meehan. Marty Meehan behaved like irrelevant snot, but Chris Shays explained his "timetable" for getting out of Iraq. He said that it head to do with replacing the Iraqi forces as they become competent to handle security themselves. (He says that the Iraqi government has stopped doing anything.) Guest host John Roberts accused Shays of advocating "cut and run."

Read More for the show-by-show review:

Read More »

Follow the Read More for the his show by show review.   He includes a link to the transcript of the Casey/Timmah vs Santorum "debate," as well as to a "live blog" coverage, which should both prove useful.

694 posted on 09/03/2006 1:12:23 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: AliVeritas
Marc Steyn is so good, "the entire crew of journalists covering the war have all converted to Islam and now they won't convert back to journalism.

"He rocks.lots of mixed emotions about Centanni and Wiig, but it's hard to know what any of us would do in their place. I for one would not ever put myself in that position to begin with. One revolution was enough for me.

695 posted on 09/03/2006 1:12:26 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: lawdude

democrats are essentially saying "vote for us and we will not spend money on defending the nation and odds are you will not die."

Who wants to fly on an airplane with maintenance based on "odds are it will not plunge out of the sky to your death".

not going to happen.


696 posted on 09/03/2006 1:13:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: snugs; rodguy911; Southack

Point of order. Most of the work was done by Southack, he deserves the recognition for the list of Bush accomplishemenents. But thank you both for the honor. :-)


697 posted on 09/03/2006 1:13:54 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Democrats: Party of Sedition, Segregation and Slavery.)
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To: Txsleuth

And no one in the Junk Media bothers to ask if Iranians can influence their Govt in ANY way.


698 posted on 09/03/2006 1:15:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Democrats: Party of Sedition, Segregation and Slavery.)
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To: kabar

Yes, the Saudis have been killing and rounding up AQ within the country.

----And yet they still fund Mosques here in the US promoting hatred of Jews and Americans. Is it unreasonable to think that we could have assistance with this as well?

We can't wall ourselves off from "foreign influence" whatever that really means.

Foreign Influence is not a new concept. The first 5 Federalist Papers are entitled with that subject. Our forefathers knew that Republics fail due to the internal conflict sparked by foreign powers. Frankly, your dismissal of the term is the kind of complacency I dread when thinking of the State department.

When I think of "Foreign Influence" I think of Clinton taking Chinese political contributions. And Al Gore at the Temple taking money from that Bhudist nun. This isn't academic.


699 posted on 09/03/2006 1:19:11 PM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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To: Dave S

In fact, the reason that Armitage knew about Plame sending her husband to Niger was because he was copied on memo to Libby answering this question.


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Source??


700 posted on 09/03/2006 1:20:30 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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