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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 3 September 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 3 September 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 09/03/2006 5:01:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Phsstpok
You clearly cannot and should not assume that all Saudi students are, ipso facto, here to aid the spread of Wahabi teachings or interests, but it's reasonable to think that some may be.

They are coming to study at US educational institutions, which welcome foreign students and the chance to exchange views and ideas with people from different cultures and backgrounds. I doubt that the spreading of "Wahabi teachings or interests" would find a very receptive audience on American college campuses. I say that advisedly having lived in Saudi Arabia for five years.

The Saudis who would come here have more likely than not travelled to the West before. They adapt to our mores and customs far easier than you think. Having flown in and out of the Kingdom numerous times, it is amazing how quickly the transition takes place. When you leave on a plane heading to Europe, the women and men head to the bathrooms to change out of their abayas and thobes and into Western dress, which includes some rather risque fashion for the ladies who don't mind showing a little skin. Unless you re flying on Saudia, the alcohol flows to these "devout Muslims." The opposite happens when flying back from Europe and the US.

A student visa is a time honored mechanism for placing agents of influence in western countires, whatever your goal.

LOL. Foreign students are far more affected by our culture than vice versa. The Saudi government is not using students as secret agents nor is it their policy to use them as "missionaries" spreading the faith. For a while, when oil revenues were down and the per capita income of Saudis plummeted, Saudi students studying abroad fell as well as overall travel. The Saudi government built more universities, which meant that fewer Saudis were exposed to the West. To me, that was far more dangerous and troubling than having them study abroad. Most of the key members of the Saudi government have studied overseas. It is a good thing.

861 posted on 09/06/2006 2:50:48 PM PDT by kabar
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And now for the top 10!

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862 posted on 09/08/2006 7:13:24 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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863 posted on 09/08/2006 7:48:28 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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Thanks so much EC great job again as usual! You were right on track, MNJ was the far a away # 1 poster this week! We thought it was his oatmeal but he swears it's just time off, who knows.
864 posted on 09/09/2006 7:42:13 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kabar
From the discussion of Saudi students in the US on last weeks Sunday morning thread: 

They are coming to study at US educational institutions, which welcome foreign students and the chance to exchange views and ideas with people from different cultures and backgrounds. I doubt that the spreading of "Wahabi teachings or interests" would find a very receptive audience on American college campuses. I say that advisedly having lived in Saudi Arabia for five years.

I thought you might find this LGF post interesting:

Saudis Sending 15,000 Students to US to "Stem Unrest"

The Saudi government has approved its largest scholarship program in history.

They’re planning to send 15,000 young students, indoctrinated to despise infidels by the Wahhabi educational system, to the United States: Huge Hike in Number of Scholarships. (Hat tip: Sabra.)

KING Abdullah, who is also the chairman of the Higher Education Council, has approved a program to allocate 15,000 scholarships for study in the US and 3,000 in some Asian countries.

Announcing this here Monday, Minister of Higher Education Dr Khalid Al-Anqari said this is the largest scholarship program by the government so far.

The program will include doctorate, master’s, fellowship and bachelor degrees, according to the Saudi Press Agency (SPA) report.

US college administrators are overjoyed at this windfall: U.S. Schools Compete for Saudi Students.

MANHATTAN, Kan. — Thousands of students from Saudi Arabia are enrolling on college campuses across the United States this semester under a new educational exchange program brokered by President Bush and Saudi King Abdullah.

The program will quintuple the number of Saudi students and scholars here by the academic year’s end. And big, public universities from Florida to the Kansas plains are in a fierce competition for their tuition dollars.

The kingdom’s royal family — which is paying full scholarships for most of the 15,000 students — says the program will help stem unrest at home by schooling the country’s brightest in the American tradition. The U.S. State Department sees the exchange as a way to build ties with future Saudi leaders and young scholars at a time of unsteady relations with the Muslim world.

Administrators at Kansas State University, an agricultural school surrounded by miles of prairie grass, say the scholarships are a bonanza for public education. “The Saudi scholarship program has definitely heightened our interest in that part of the world,” said Kenneth Holland, associate provost for international programs. “Not only are the students fully funded, but they’re also paying out-of-state tuition.

Kansas State has boosted efforts to court Saudi officials in the last year, flying administrators and department heads to the Saudi embassy in Washington. It’s paid off: last month about 150 Saudi students started classes there, each funded to the tune of about $31,000.

Saudi Embassy spokesman Nail Al-Jubeir said 90 percent of the 10,229 Saudi students the U.S. State Department has registered for the fall semester will also get such scholarships.

By January, U.S. government officials say the program will expand to 15,000 students, which means Saudi Arabia will send more foreign students to the U.S. than Mexico or Turkey. As funding for the scholarship program expands, those numbers are likely to grow.

“This is a critically important bilateral relationship,” said Tom Farrell, a deputy assistant secretary for academic programs at the State Department. “It’s an opportunity to increase understanding of Saudi Arabia for the United States and of the United States for Saudi Arabia.”

College administrators say common misperceptions about the oil-rich nation make it crucial to create a tolerant environment for Arab and Muslim students, who have been singled out for scrutiny since the Sept. 11 attacks five years ago.

So, as Kansas State students enjoy a string of home football games this month, they also are preparing for the campus’ first celebration of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month.

We really want to make this special. We’re going to truck in halal food from Kansas City,” Holland said. “The Saudi government is trying to place the students in a variety of institutions across the country, but where you get the competitive advantage is how you treat the students when they get here.”

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This could be interpreted in several ways... <g>

Cross posting to today's Weekend Preview Thread

865 posted on 09/09/2006 11:05:42 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Phsstpok

As I stated previously, this is a good thing.


866 posted on 09/09/2006 4:00:45 PM PDT by kabar
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