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The First Post-Macaca GOP '08 Straw Poll (Allen Craters to 11.5%)
Red State.com ^ | 8.27.06 | machiavel

Posted on 08/28/2006 11:23:42 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

The results of the latest GOP Bloggers straw poll are in. The poll was posted on the Red State homepage over the weekend, and first-choice results are as follows (full results with RS results in parentheses).

Giuliani 24.6% (22.0%) Gingrich 21.1% (19.5%) Romney 12.8% (15.8%) Allen 11.5% (11.3%) Tancredo 6.7% (4.5%) McCain 6.4% (6.7%) Hagel 2.8% (3.3%) Brownback 2.5% (3.2%) Huckabee 1.5% (1.8%) Frist 1.1% (0.9%) Pataki 0.3% (0.3%)Read on...

The Macaca incident has clearly devastated Allen’s numbers in the blogosphere, his stronghold. He used to have sky-high favorability, largely because he hadn’t done anything to offend anyone. He also used to run first or second (tangling with Giuliani) with 20% to 30% in polls like this. Once undefined, he has now been defined in a hugely negative way, dropping to fourth with 11.5% support.

The only true direct comparison is the results for individual blogs. From July to August, Allen dropped 23.9% in net favorability among RedState readers. RealClearPolitics also ran the poll both months – and probably has an audience that’s even more plugged-in politically than RedState. On that site, Allen dropped an astonishing 41.6% points in a month, and now has 6.5% first place votes. Allen probably still retains some “true-believer” support among the more conservative sites of the blogosphere. Let’s see if that holds up.

Who’s the new conservative “it” candidate? Newt! The conservative mantle has shifted to Newt over the last few months. He got a huge boost last month for being all over the Israel-Hezbollah war. Allen’s implosion has given Newt’s people a reason to stick around, at least for a while. Vis Numar makes this development the headline, but inaccurately notes that his numbers went from +1% to +40% in a month. That was actually from a poll taken earlier in the year, but it highlights how far Newt has come.

Bottom line: It looks like Newt’s decision to stay out the race until November of ’07 could throw the race into some turmoil, with all the major campaigns calculating what happens if Newt gets in. He’s clearly trying to play kingmaker and anoint the preferred conservative if he doesn’t run, and numbers like this suggest he could pull it off.

Giuliani and Romney show positive movement. There’s a consistent pattern of Romney and Giuliani momentum among a few of the bigger blogs participating in the poll. Among RedState readers, Romney moved up a net 10.9% and Giuliani a net 10.8% in acceptability. On RealClearPolitics, Romney moved up 18.9% to Giuliani’s 12.5%. On Blogs for Bush, Giuliani moved up 22.8% and Romney was up 14.8%.

McCain supporters love Giuliani and Giuliani supporters are pretty fond of Romney – handy reference should either of the two offline frontrunners falter.

Men and boys by AcademicElephant Looks like the men are being seperated from the boys--but I'm still having trouble getting excited about any of them.

"I'm kind of old-fashioned. I like to engage my brain before my mouth." Donald Rumsfeld


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; allen; allen2008; brownback; frist; gingrich; giuliani; giuliani2008; gop; hagel; huckabee; mccain; pataki; redstate; romney; tancredo
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1 posted on 08/28/2006 11:23:43 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

This, too, shall pass.

George in 2008. Easy.


2 posted on 08/28/2006 11:25:26 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: gopwinsin04

Well, Allen did make a "not ready for prime time" impression.


3 posted on 08/28/2006 11:25:53 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: wouldntbprudent
George in 2008. Easy.

Top or bottom of the ticket?

4 posted on 08/28/2006 11:28:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: colorado tanker
Does Newt really have this much hard core support?

'Bottom line: It looks like Newt’s decision to stay out the race until November of ’07 could throw the race into some turmoil, with all the major campaigns calculating what happens if Newt gets in. He’s clearly trying to play kingmaker and anoint the preferred conservative if he doesn’t run, and numbers like this suggest he could pull it off.'

5 posted on 08/28/2006 11:29:20 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

I miss 1980.


6 posted on 08/28/2006 11:29:51 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: gopwinsin04

Yes, the man bailed out Bill Clinton and is a serial adulterer, would make a great conservative candidate.


7 posted on 08/28/2006 11:31:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Newt can enjoy the buildup if he doesn't decide to run.


8 posted on 08/28/2006 11:32:16 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
He's NEVER been a front-runner for the 2008 nomination... this ain't new. What IS new... is that McCain is now down to 6.4%!
9 posted on 08/28/2006 11:32:51 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: gopwinsin04
McCain supporters love Giuliani and Giuliani supporters are pretty fond of Romney

Makes sense. RINO scum stick together.

10 posted on 08/28/2006 11:33:41 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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To: gopwinsin04
I think not. The record for Congressmen jumping to the Presidency is not good. It's really hard to build a base without even a statewide race under your belt. And the Speakership is a low profile office to ordinary voters.

I think Newt's base is pretty much limited to conservative bloggers and news junkies.

11 posted on 08/28/2006 11:33:43 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: nickcarraway

He also ended a decades-long domination of Congress by the Democrats, and is the only conservative leader in memory to have the guts to shut down the government. Who else has better credentials and can be trusted not to stick his foot in his mouth?


12 posted on 08/28/2006 11:34:07 AM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: gopwinsin04
The First Post-Macaca GOP '08 Straw Poll

2 years out, means absolutely NOTHING.

13 posted on 08/28/2006 11:36:21 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: colorado tanker

right now I'd say the race is primed for a Jeb Bush or Arnold Schwartznegger to drop in.


14 posted on 08/28/2006 11:36:36 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
He’s clearly trying to play kingmaker and anoint the preferred conservative if he doesn’t run, and numbers like this suggest he could pull it off.

IMO the support for Newt is for "conservative candidate To Be Determined".

I think there'a a good chance we'll see a new name emerge, somebody like Jim Gilmore or Mark Sanford.

15 posted on 08/28/2006 11:36:42 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I ha' da Steve Nash DO befo' Steve Nash DID)
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My take from the various polls noted here is that we are likely to get a 2008 ticket even less attractive to social Conservatives - especially those with strong religious convictions - than even the current administration. I don't know if this portends a third party candidate, or just less enthusiasm at the polls, or something else.


16 posted on 08/28/2006 11:36:52 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: gopwinsin04

I would happily support Newt.


17 posted on 08/28/2006 11:39:05 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
I like George Allen, but he has to win his senate race first. That is not a slam dunk. Allen appears to be a "nice guy" which is what people said about dubya before he was elected. McCain will never get the nomination, he has ticked off too many. Romney is not as liberal as some on FR have opined, but his deal with RATS on medical coverage concerns me. Rudy is still the man to beat in my opinion. I know, the Rudy haters will come forth. Also, I don't think Newt can get over his image from the 90s.
18 posted on 08/28/2006 11:39:37 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

Newt should read Tom Coburn's book before launching a run. I'm sure all Newt's opponents will.


19 posted on 08/28/2006 11:44:33 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (AIDS = Amnesty Interrupted Derangement Syndrome)
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To: gopwinsin04
The "Caca" wing of Redstate are likely trolls, its a nothing event and George Allen will win in the primaries.

The Rudy/McCain/Romney cheerleaders will have to get used to political facts, they will never be the nominee.
20 posted on 08/28/2006 11:44:38 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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