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Novak - "GOP will lose 27-30 seats..."
Rightalk.com ^ | 8-25-06 | Bob J

Posted on 08/25/2006 12:40:57 PM PDT by Bob J

In an Election 2006 conference sponsored by Paul Weyrich and the Free Congess Foundation this afternoon, panelist Robert Novak stated that based on his and others significant research he believed the GOP would lose between 27-30 seats in the House this fall.

Other panelists inlcuded John Fund, Kate O'Bierne and John Gizzy. A replay of the one hour conference can be heard at www.Rightalk.com , which webcast the event. click on "The Right Hour" logo.


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KEYWORDS: 2006; novak; predictions; rightalk
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To: MeanWestTexan
Aren't we scheduled to catch Bin Laden in late October? :-)
41 posted on 08/25/2006 12:56:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Bob J

42 posted on 08/25/2006 12:56:26 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Bob J

Numbers mean nothing without names and states.

We might lose one in Texas or we might break even.
California: no change.
New Jersey: no change.
Ohio: may lose one (Pryce)or might pick up one (OH-6)
Geogia and IL: break even or pick up one.
Minnesota: no change.
PA and CT: Could lose up to two each, more likely to break even.
NY: lose one or break even.
AZ: Probably break even, could lose one.
MN: probably break even, outside change of losing one.
IN: 2 at risk, but I haven't heard any new polling - probably lose no more than one.
KY: could lose one.
VT: pick up one or status quo.


43 posted on 08/25/2006 12:56:54 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (AIDS = Amnesty Interrupted Derangement Syndrome)
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To: Skooz

Honestly, I think they were predicting a wash in 2002 or slight Democrat gains and the Democrats ended up losing several seats, largely due to redistricting. In 2004 they also predicted the status quo and that's what happened outside of Texas, with a few incumbents (Burns, Hill, Crane) knocked off for personal reasons or because the partisan pull of their district went too far in a Presidential year.

The Democrats often led in the generic poll earlier in the year, but not by as much as they have in some polls this year, although the last few polls have shown closer results. Polls before election day in 2002 showed Republicans leading in the generic poll in some cases.

So, 27-30 is definitely the outer edge of predictions right now, but they haven't predicted apocalypse for Republicans in the past like they are this year.


44 posted on 08/25/2006 12:57:42 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Jim Noble

Which assclowns are you refering to? The one's that spout "Bush's fault, Bush bad, Bush evil, yadda yadda yadda, New Direction for America!!!" or the one's who actually have stances on the issues?


45 posted on 08/25/2006 12:57:52 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: LS
On talk radio here in L.A., I heard someone (whose name escapes me now) say that a lot of Republicans are in trouble. Then he ticked off some names, including J.D Hayworth in Arizona. I'm not from Arizona, so don't know the local issues there. But I would be shocked if he is truly in trouble.

Could it be that some Republicans like J.D. are in trouble because Hispanics are mobilizing against them for their strong anti-illegal stances?

46 posted on 08/25/2006 12:58:07 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: tiredoflaundry

'Novak is full of "Novak."

I thought that was what TX said.


47 posted on 08/25/2006 12:58:36 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (But who or what can check or balance our appointed for life,by Hezbocrats, Hezbojudiciary?)
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To: Bob J
EVERY election where the major Junk polling outfits have it tied or close the Republicans have done much much better then any of the Talking Head Junk Media types have predicted. Garbage in/Garbage out polling produces garbage analysis. Switching to polling anyone over 18 who answer the phone at a ratio of 27%R/38%D/35% I is utterly absurd polling methodology. It not only over samples Democrats it samples the 50-55% of the population that will not vote on election day.

So WHEN someone finally does a 40-40-20 poll of LIKELY voters and can show all this love for the Democrats I will take them seriously. Bob Novak is making the same mistake the political types do EVERY election year. They listen to the DNC Political spin monsters like Carvell, Begela et al and take their noise seriously

People rarely change their political party id. The Junk Media works these massive swings in the poll data by playing with the sample in order to generate the "horse race" mentality that sells newspapers and drives TV show ratings. Based on the 2004 election they should be sampling 51%R/49%D but of course they will not do that because that would NOT generate the drama queen headlines they need to hype their product. The simply fact is "Journalism" is now days simply another form of marketing a product. A different kind of advertising. It has little to nothing to do with "News" or "Fact"

48 posted on 08/25/2006 1:01:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Elections are more important then the feelings of the POS Cons (Perpetually Offended Syndrome))
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To: MrLee
You mean like the Dems did in the first two years of the Clinton administration when they passes socialized medicine? Hillary care passed both houses in a Democrat controled congress didn't it? .

Well if they didn't pass hillary care what did they pass that was on the liberal agenda in those 2 years? The answer is nothing. The only major legislation under the Clinton administration was welfare reform... but that was a Rebublican bill the Republican's made clinton sign.

The Democrats have done worse than Republican at passing their agenda when they are in control. Of course it has been 15 years since they were in control.

49 posted on 08/25/2006 1:02:38 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Bob J
Sorry, but I don't believe it. If there is an anti-incumbency mood in the country as the media keeps telling us, why are not Democrat incumbents affected?

Also, most polls show both sides are dissatisfied with Congress. The latest Pew Poll showed something like 24% approval rate. However, when asked if the person planned on voting for their own Representatives the answer is always a huge majority yes.

Everyone else's representatives suck, not mine.
50 posted on 08/25/2006 1:02:39 PM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore, even if they don't know it)
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To: MNJohnnie

"The Junk Media works these massive swings in the poll data by playing with the sample in order to generate the "horse race" mentality that sells newspapers and drives TV show ratings."

Funny, I thought they did it to energize the dem base.


51 posted on 08/25/2006 1:03:57 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

The Prince of Darkness has spoken, the case is closed!


52 posted on 08/25/2006 1:04:08 PM PDT by Argus
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To: RightWhale

"Won't lose any in Alaska."

How comforting.


53 posted on 08/25/2006 1:04:13 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Bob J
He's just regurgitating the elite Drive-By Media line. Not much of a track record these past 20 years.
54 posted on 08/25/2006 1:04:16 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: Mo1
Novak's problem and the problem of the 'others research' crowd is that they suffer from one common problem--lack of knowledge of the constituents about whom they're prognosticating. In other words, they look at supposedly non partisan polls, opinions from other mushroom experts (as in 'being in the dark'), newspaper editorials, and MSM blather. They RARELY have a finger on the pulse of the heartbeat of America.

That being said, there are a number of things that I'm certainly not proud or happy about with what Congress (both houses) and the President have proffered (Senate's abortion of an immigration bill, the House's uncontrolled spending, and President Bush's surrender to illegal immigration). However, all these things aside, I as a 'common' man will be goddamned if I EVER vote for a DEMOCRAT unless he is in the true mold of Zell Miller.

55 posted on 08/25/2006 1:05:09 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MaineVoter2002

Does anyone know what Kate O'Beirne and the others said about Novak's predictions? Sometimes, I think he is a Trojan horse for the Dems.

vaudine


56 posted on 08/25/2006 1:05:30 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Bob J; All

Anyone remember novak's column from a few years ago. Novak is ALWAYS predicting republican doom and gloom:

Does a GOP Implosion Await? (FLASHBACK: August 2004 - Novak Quoted)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1673264/posts

Novak: Why GOP fears 2002 races (FLASHBACK to place near his 2006 piece)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1673258/posts


57 posted on 08/25/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: NeoCaveman

Both seats in NH are at risk, CD2 (Bass) much more so than CD1 (Bradley).


58 posted on 08/25/2006 1:06:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (President of the FR Rudy 2008 caucus, posting for 3 days from the City he saved.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Novak's record has been mixed. He underestimated GOP strength in '94, saying they would gain 46 seats. That time I was glad he was wrong. But I remember way back to 1984 when he was on McLaughlin saying the Repubs would gain 22-25 in the coming Reagan landslide. They took only 14. Still, Novak was closer in his estimates than the other prognosticators were. So I don't reject his projection completely. It does sound a bit optimistic for the Dems though.

I remember him saying that on Meet the Press two months before the Republican takeover of Congress. He was one of the few people at the time who predicted that the Republicans would actually take over the House. Most politcal pundits at the time predicted that the Republicans would have a "working majority", meaning that they would have to pick up votes from boll weevil Democrats to get a majority on bills.

So Novak's prediction still scares me.

59 posted on 08/25/2006 1:07:01 PM PDT by guinnessman
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To: vaudine

O'Beirne demurred...


60 posted on 08/25/2006 1:07:23 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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