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Waiver of pretrial hearing denied for Hamdania defendants - Pendleton 8
North County Times ^ | 8/22/06 | Teri Figueroa and Mark Walker

Posted on 08/22/2006 6:26:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

CAMP PENDLETON -- The Marine Corps announced late Tuesday afternoon that it will not waive pretrial hearings requested by four of eight Camp Pendleton troops accused of kidnapping and murder in the death of an Iraqi man.

Maj. Jeff Nyhart said the decision was made by the commander of U.S. Marine Forces and issued the following prepared statement.

"In order to make a fair and impartial decision on the disposition of these cases, the commander ... wants the impartial analysis of the charges and evidence afforded by an Article 32 investigation," the statement said.

Last week, civilian attorneys for four of the men said they wanted their cases to move directly to trial and expressed frustration that the Article 32 hearings, equivalent to a grand jury hearing in civilian court, will be nothing more than formality.

Joseph Casas, an attorney for one of men who requested the waiver, Pfc. John Jodka of Encinitas, said he was not surprised by the announcement.

"The chess game continues," he said. "I believe the Marine Corps is overstepping Pfc. Jodka's rights. I wonder why the government is so scared to go to trial."

Jodka, six other Marines and a Navy corpsman are charged with premeditated murder and related offenses in the April 26 death of Hashim Ibrahim Awad. The other accused troops are Sgt. Lawrence G. Hutchins III, Hospitalman 3rd Class Melson J. Bacos, Cpls. Trent Thomas and Marshall Magincalda, and Lance Cpls. Tyler A. Jackson, Jerry E. Shumate and Robert B. Pennington.

Each faces the possiblity of the death penalty if convicted.

Those who sought to waive their Article 32 hearings were Jodka, Shumate, Thomas and Magincalda.

The first Article 32 hearing in the case is set for Sept. 12.

In another development, a Marine colonel sitting as a magistrate ruled Tuesday that Jodka will not be released from the Camp Pendleton brig.

In finding that he should remain in jail, the magistrate, cited the seriousness of the charges against the 20-year-old, said Siegel and co-counsel Joseph Casas. The magistrate's name was not immediately available.

The attorneys said they knew securing his release was a longshot and that while they lost the bid, they said they were buoyed by testimony from senior ranking enlisted men who testified during the hearing that took place in a Camp Pendleton courtroom over two days, Friday and Monday.

Gunnery Sgt. Keith Brockmann and Sgt. Major Michael Kufchak testified that they would be willing to watch Jodka if he were released, the attorneys said.

Casas also said the two career Marines testified that they did not believe Jodka would be a flight risk, and that they stand firm in the presumption of his innocence.

Casas characterized the hearing as bittersweet.

"It was reassuring to hear that top enlisted Marines with close ties to the Camp Pendleton 8 have faith in the presumption of innocence and have faith in their Marines," Casas said. "It is very reassuring that they have not turned their backs."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendants; denied; haditha; hamdania; hamdaniya; hearing; iraq; jodka; marines; pendleton8; pretrial; waiver
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1 posted on 08/22/2006 6:26:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Some of the familes and supporters of the 7 Hamdaniya Marines & a Navy Corpsman, now charged with multiple criminal offenses, have setup web sites for use in accepting donations for legal defense funds or sending notes of encouragement and support to the detainees and their families.

Cpl. Robert Pennington
http://www.defendrob.com


PFC John Jodka
http://www.innocentmarine.com


Tyler Jackson
http://www.fightingfortyler.com


Cpl. Marshall Magincalda
http://www.defendourmarine.com


Cpl. Trent Thomas
http://www.defensefundformyhero.com


Lance Cpl Jerry Shumate
http://friendsofjerry.blogspot.com/


Hospital Corpsman Third Class Melson J. Bacos
http://patriotdefensefund.com/



Other sites supporting the men:

http://www.defendthetruth.com

http://www.warrior-fund.org

If your financial situation permits, please help as you can to cover legal representation costs.

Thanks!

2 posted on 08/22/2006 6:27:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is there anyway to find out who the JAG off or CO was that decided to bring Article 32 hearing on these men.

Or was this a cluster f#ck by the press and a couple of framed fauxtographers/journalists who have an agenda, and will look at any and all civilian casualties as "murder".

I still think that these guys were cut loose in order to prove a point to the Army and others at the Pentagon that the Marine Corp "can investigate" as well as the Army for "war crimes"..... bunch of f'ing pussies.

I think the longer this Iraqi T.O. is open the more political bs is going to happen.

Nobody kills like that in front of a bunch of witnesses..... from what I've heard/

3 posted on 08/22/2006 6:34:29 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: NormsRevenge; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ..

Pendleton 8 update.


4 posted on 08/22/2006 6:41:06 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Dick Vomer

I like your tag line.

I once saw a neat bumper sticker. It said, "Mean people suck." So I got one for my car.


Then I found out that there was more to it than that...


The other half of the phrase was about what nice people do : O

LOL!


5 posted on 08/22/2006 6:45:00 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Thanks for ping.


6 posted on 08/22/2006 6:58:05 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: freema

Hmmmm. I'll have to think about that.


7 posted on 08/22/2006 7:06:56 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: NormsRevenge; flightline; JulieRNR21

Thank you, my friend.


8 posted on 08/22/2006 7:13:44 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: SuzyQue

Don't make me explain it. LOL!


9 posted on 08/23/2006 3:15:44 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: NormsRevenge

That tee shirt is going to look pretty stupid in retrospect, however, should reliable evidence actually back up the charges.


10 posted on 08/23/2006 3:17:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: freema; RaceBannon; JulieRNR21
I am here!! These guy's started this two weeks ago! all eight were going to do the same, as far as a forced article 32, It tells me the case is week and the gov. not the corp's wants time to stack the deck!!! If the article 32 was waived, the gov. would have to turn over all details of the case in a discovery type discloser, It dose not seem to be the case!!! so what do they have or what do they not have????? This is out of control, There is a meeting today with a commander of Marines, We shall see what it brings
11 posted on 08/23/2006 4:52:47 AM PDT by flightline (they fight for us,We fight for them........!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; RaceBannon; NormsRevenge; freema; usmcobra; SandRat; Coop; Little Bill; M Kehoe; ...
That tee shirt is going to look pretty stupid in retrospect, however, should reliable evidence actually back up the charges.

There is nothing 'stupid' about the message on that tee shirt.

It states that the seven Marines and one Navy hospitalman are entitled to the same Judicial Due Process of all Americans....that they are to be considered INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!

12 posted on 08/23/2006 11:45:23 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Freedom isn't Free.........Support Our Troops......Thank a Veteran Today)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It never ceases to amaze me how many people struggle to grasp the most basic premise of our law - presumption of innocence.


13 posted on 08/23/2006 11:54:22 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: JulieRNR21

BTTT


14 posted on 08/23/2006 12:09:45 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: HiTech RedNeck
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! YOU ARE SICK.

OH, AND IN RETROSPECT, MY "KERRY SUCKS" TSHIRT WOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN, BUT IT WASN'T.

YOUR RETROSPECTIVE STUPIDITY WILL ALSO LOOK PRETTY STUPID!

15 posted on 08/23/2006 2:28:07 PM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; LadyX; marine86297; kellynla; tet68; MudPuppy; A.A. Cunningham; Lancey Howard; ...

No offense, but just what is so offensive about being treated as innocent before PROVEN guilty??

There hasn't even been a HEARING on whether this is going to trial yet, and you have them convicted???


16 posted on 08/23/2006 3:12:35 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; RaceBannon
"That tee shirt is going to look pretty stupid in retrospect, however, should reliable evidence actually back up the charges."

"Innocent until proven guilty"?

Not at all -- the statement is the foundation of our Civil and Military Judicial System...

Your statement is more in error and open to immediate ridicule -- since there have been NO CHARGES FILED - and NO DECISION TO FILE CHARGES yet.

I have total confidence in the Marine Corps and its integrity to apply the UCMJ in a just manner...
I will NOT critize any decision that is based on REAL EVIDENCE -- and not on any lying Arab's testimony or Murtha's personal assessment of the fire fight scenario.

I retain 100% confidence in the outcome, even though I detest the manner in which these Marines and their Corpsman have been treated to date.

Semper Fi

17 posted on 08/23/2006 3:40:21 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: RaceBannon

It's pretty sad when the trial is held as a kangaroo court in the media long before it ever gets to a jury isn't it? The media should not be allowed to comment on an investigation until the trial has at least been started and the jurors sequestered or told not to pay any attention to the media.


18 posted on 08/23/2006 4:18:14 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: RaceBannon; HiTech
Well. Murtha and crew have done a splendid job. So many have been suckered in. At this juncture in time with so many articles being posted at FR, with solid comments on what has been established and what has not, it is rather strange everyone does not understand no formal charges have been filed against anyone, let alone any hearings coming forth to date.
Perhaps HiTech simply has not understood thus far, the eight are as innocent as he is on what some Iraqi anti-American's have charged them with.

HiTech. I charge you with stealing my case of beer. Now are you guilty of the charge I make against you?
There has been no trial as of yet to prove my claim is true, and for that matter no formal hearing to investigate if what I charge you with is true or false.
That is where these eight stand at this point. They are innocent until proven guilty. That is all we are saying.
19 posted on 08/23/2006 4:24:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: HiTech; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; RaceBannon; river rat; W04Man; E.G.C.; Coop; JulieRNR21

I guess the t-shirt won't look quite as stupid in retrospect as that comment looks now.


20 posted on 08/23/2006 5:04:38 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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