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BOSNIA: 1,000 BODIES EXCAVATED IN RECORD MASS GRAVE
AKI/VPR ^ | Aug-17-06 | (Vpr/Aki)

Posted on 08/18/2006 1:09:26 AM PDT by Westlander

Forensic experts have excavated over 1,000 bodies from a mass grave in the village of Kamenica in eastern Bosnia.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; appeasement; balkans; bodies; bosnia; clintonians; clintonlegacy; grave; islamofascists; jihad; massgrave; wot; wrongplace; wrongplaceislam; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
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1 posted on 08/18/2006 1:09:29 AM PDT by Westlander
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To: Westlander
Unreal.

What a world.

2 posted on 08/18/2006 1:14:34 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: Wraith; Mabel; joan; Bokababe

This is interesting and may be legit. However, the timing seems odd.

"The victims had clearly been brought from another location and reburied in Kamenica, and in an attempt to hide the crime, said Hurtic. A total 1,153 bodies have been excavated since digging began at the start of June, Hurtic said."

The previous statement is the odd part of it......Also, the reported mass grave in Vidomiric has me a little perplexed. I was not aware of this one as I arrived in Kosovo mid-October.

French arrest four in Kosova mass grave case

Prishtina, Sept 28 (Reuters) - French forces have arrested four men suspected of involvement in the abduction of ethnic Albanians whose bodies were later found in a mass grave, peacekeepers said on Tuesday.

The KFOR peacekeeping force said seven of the 28 bodies in the grave had so far been identified as being from a group of 23 men from the same street in the city of Mitrovica.

The men were reported missing after a raid by alleged Serb paramilitaries on Popovic Street in April.

``Men were separated from women and children, and 23 were abducted and maybe killed on the same day in Mitrovica but later buried out of town,'' said Colonel Claude Vicaire, the head of the French gendarmerie unit which investigated the case.


3 posted on 08/18/2006 1:23:57 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Westlander
Forensic experts have excavated over 1,000 bodies from a mass grave

Failed attempt by Serbs to eclipse Sadam Hussein's Guiness World record?

4 posted on 08/18/2006 1:24:37 AM PDT by NilesJo
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To: NilesJo

Sorry. Hitler owns that one, and that's one record I really don't want to see anyone try to tie, let alone break.


5 posted on 08/18/2006 1:36:02 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Westlander

In her book Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide published in 2002, Bat Ye'or made the following comments about the historical antecedents to the dispute between Muslims and Christians in the Balkans:

“To anyone with some knowledge of the centuries-old history of Serbian resistance to Ottoman domination, it was obvious that the return of a form of Islamic power in Bosnia- Herzegovina would be rejected by Orthodox Serbs. The five centuries of "harmonious and peaceful coexistence” under Islamic rule, cited by Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic belong to the theological dogma of the perfection of the shari'a and the dhimmi For the Orthodox Serbs, however, this same period is considered one of massacre, pillage, slavery, deportation, and the exile of Christian populations. In their eyes it was a regime which found its justification in the usurpation of their land and denial of their rights; hence it represented the exact opposite of a peaceful, multicultural coexistence based on a system of social and political justice. Thus, two conceptions of history clashed, having never before been confronted. On the one hand, there is the version the dhimmi victims; on the other, that of the conquerors, through jihad.


In their wars of emancipation-and, later, of liberation-the Orthodox Serbs found that their bitterest adversaries were their Muslim compatriots attached to their religious privileges and their domination over the humiliated Christians. During World War II Axis forces invaded Yugoslavia and sponsored the creation of a Nazi Croat state (Ustashi) with which many Bosnian Muslims cooperated. At the prompting of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husayni, they formed military corps, including the 13th (Hanjar) Waffen SS Division, some of which were trained in France. Early in the war, these Muslim Slavs actively participated in the policies of the Ustashi Croats and Nazis in the genocide of hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, and gypsies. Even their German allies were shocked by the bestial atrocities committed then in Yugoslavia.

The Nazis encouraged secessionist claims by Muslims, some of whose leaders cited the traditional peaceful coexistence under Islam to denounce later these atrocities which they imputed to the Croats-although Muslim participation in the massacres was notorious. In fact, these allegations aimed at exploiting the inter-Christian conflicts between Catholic Croats and Orthodox Serbs which had facilitated Islam's expansion for a millennium.


Under the authoritarian Communist rule of Tito-a Croat-the Muslim religion benefited from being recognized as Muslim nationality. It was the only group defined by religious criteria, whereas others were characterized by their ethnic differences. The deliberate policy of allowing the Islamization of the Orthodox Serbian homeland (Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzegovina) to continue also earned Tito the economic and political support of the Islamic world and perpetuated inter-Christian schisms. The communist dogma of human brotherhood once again froze the conflicts without resolving them. In 1991, before the conflict erupted, the English edition of Alija Izetbegovic's Islamic Declaration (1970) was published in Sarajevo. It specifically stated: "There can be neither peace nor coexistence between Arabia, the cradle of Islam and non-Islamic social and political institutions." And his conclusion affirmed:


'The Islamic movement must, and can, take over power as soon as it is morally and numerically so strong that it can not only destroy the existing non- Islamic power, but also build up a new Islamic one’.


Underneath the camouflage of "the multicultural Islamic state" and the "five hundred years of peaceful coexistence," Bosnian Serbs recognized the shari'a system which had decimated them. Hence, the cruelty of the fighting in Bosnia reflected the historical confrontation which, instead of being settled by dialogue, erupted in hatred. Its barbarity expresses the revenge of repressed history, a parody of the distorted myth of idyllic coexistence. Izetbegovic described the Canadian UN commander, Major-General Lewis W. MacKenzie, as "an ignorant man" for his statement in New York that:
‘both sides’ in the war were filled with hatred. According to Izetbegovic, this could only have been said by someone who knew nothing of Sarajevo's Muslims and their ‘500-year tradition of tolerance’.
Izetbegovic's reference to an "Ottoman paradise" scandalized Serbs, Greeks, and Armenians. Innocent individuals regardless of religion have become victims of a past which, because it was buried in silence, vengefully returns, accompanied by appalling acts of violence. Those responsible are the politicians who, to safeguard their own interests, tried to impose the myth of tolerance on their victims”.

http://lamar.colostate.edu/~grjan/kosovohistory.html


6 posted on 08/18/2006 2:07:00 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Spktyr
Hitler owns that one, and that's one record I really don't want to see anyone try to tie, let alone break.

Jinghiz Khan owns the record for sheer speed and efficiency. In 1221, he captured the city of Herat and massacred every man, woman, and child in it, an estimated 1.6 million in a week. If he hadn't run out of bodies he would have hit Hitler's Jewish murders in a month.

7 posted on 08/18/2006 2:21:55 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Spktyr
The understandings of the United States and its NATO allies about the history of the Balkans unfortunately does not appear to include events prior to Tito's death in 1980, and Milosevec's ascendancy to the Presidency of Serbia in 1987. These events have been described above. However, as Bat Ye'or wrote, also described above, to the Serbs, the five preceeding centuries consisted of massacres, pillage, slavery and exile of Christians on the part of Muslims during the Islamic assault into Europe. When Aliya Izetbegovic, the leader of the Muslim faction in Bosnia stated in 1970: There can be neither peace nor coexistence between Arabia, the cradle of Islam and non-Islamic social and political institutions." and "The Islamic movement must, and can, take over power as soon as it is morally and numerically so strong that it can not only destroy the existing non- Islamic power, but also build up a new Islamic one", it should have set off alarm bells in the Capitals of Europe.

But it didn't. In the Bosnian wars of 1992-5 Muslim, Croat (Catholic) and Serb (Orthodox) factions fought for control of Bosnia. The United States intervened in the conflict decisively with air power on the side of the Muslims. The result was the Dayton Peace Accords, negotiated in Dayton, Ohio ansd signed in Paris September 14, 1995. These accords were signed by the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Republic of Croatia, and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The accords set up a Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina consisting of two entities: a Croation-Muslim Federation and a Republica Srpska.

This arrangement has failed the test of time. In October 2002 an article in the International Herald Tribune realistically suggested that it is time to admit defeat. There is no Nation-State of Bosnia-Herzegovina, instead there are, in fact, three separate entities, since a Croat-Muslim Federation is as much a delusion as a country of Bosnia-Herzegovina. This in spite of billions of dollars of international aid, Western involvement in governance and Western troops. More than half the pre-war population was displaced during the 1992-1995 war and as of 1998 fewer than 15% had returned, in spite of the fact that return of refugees was a priority of the Dayton Accords.

8 posted on 08/18/2006 2:23:05 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Spktyr
Hitler owns that one...

Not for Muslims.

9 posted on 08/18/2006 2:53:13 AM PDT by NilesJo
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To: Westlander; KDD

Interesting. Thanks for your posts KDD. Informative/educational.


10 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:13 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Westlander

Bush's fault


11 posted on 08/18/2006 3:11:57 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: Westlander

Clinton's dumbass war gets no condemnation from the peace wussies???


12 posted on 08/18/2006 3:16:52 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: KDD
Thank you.

The old adage about "those who ignore history" has morphed into "those who are ignorant of history."

Given the current level of ignorance, it's becoming increasingly difficult to believe that we are not doomed to repeat the tragedy of Kosovo on a much wider scale.

13 posted on 08/18/2006 3:33:35 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: KDD

Thanks.


14 posted on 08/18/2006 4:12:54 AM PDT by AncientAirs
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To: Westlander

I was stationed outside Srebrenica in 2001. Where is Kamenica? I don't recall that name off the top of my head.

Is it south by Vlasenica or farther north towards Bijelina?


15 posted on 08/18/2006 4:20:37 AM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: Terabitten

After some quick googling, I found that Kamenica is also known as Crna Rijeka - Black River if my memory serves.


16 posted on 08/18/2006 4:22:54 AM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: KDD

We are reaping the havoc of the klinton legacy. Our children and their children will be trying to undo his evil deeds.


17 posted on 08/18/2006 4:24:23 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Westlander; Bokababe; FormerLib; kronos77

Bump


18 posted on 08/18/2006 4:26:23 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NilesJo

Didn't those in the grave live by the rule that the Serbs would either be dhimmi or die?


19 posted on 08/18/2006 4:37:06 AM PDT by houeto (Isn't 1400 years of the same shi'ite enough?)
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To: tgambill

Ping


20 posted on 08/18/2006 4:46:09 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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