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1 posted on 08/18/2006 1:09:29 AM PDT by Westlander
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To: Westlander
Unreal.

What a world.

2 posted on 08/18/2006 1:14:34 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when ignored.)
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To: Westlander
Forensic experts have excavated over 1,000 bodies from a mass grave

Failed attempt by Serbs to eclipse Sadam Hussein's Guiness World record?

4 posted on 08/18/2006 1:24:37 AM PDT by NilesJo
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To: Westlander

In her book Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide published in 2002, Bat Ye'or made the following comments about the historical antecedents to the dispute between Muslims and Christians in the Balkans:

“To anyone with some knowledge of the centuries-old history of Serbian resistance to Ottoman domination, it was obvious that the return of a form of Islamic power in Bosnia- Herzegovina would be rejected by Orthodox Serbs. The five centuries of "harmonious and peaceful coexistence” under Islamic rule, cited by Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic belong to the theological dogma of the perfection of the shari'a and the dhimmi For the Orthodox Serbs, however, this same period is considered one of massacre, pillage, slavery, deportation, and the exile of Christian populations. In their eyes it was a regime which found its justification in the usurpation of their land and denial of their rights; hence it represented the exact opposite of a peaceful, multicultural coexistence based on a system of social and political justice. Thus, two conceptions of history clashed, having never before been confronted. On the one hand, there is the version the dhimmi victims; on the other, that of the conquerors, through jihad.


In their wars of emancipation-and, later, of liberation-the Orthodox Serbs found that their bitterest adversaries were their Muslim compatriots attached to their religious privileges and their domination over the humiliated Christians. During World War II Axis forces invaded Yugoslavia and sponsored the creation of a Nazi Croat state (Ustashi) with which many Bosnian Muslims cooperated. At the prompting of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husayni, they formed military corps, including the 13th (Hanjar) Waffen SS Division, some of which were trained in France. Early in the war, these Muslim Slavs actively participated in the policies of the Ustashi Croats and Nazis in the genocide of hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, and gypsies. Even their German allies were shocked by the bestial atrocities committed then in Yugoslavia.

The Nazis encouraged secessionist claims by Muslims, some of whose leaders cited the traditional peaceful coexistence under Islam to denounce later these atrocities which they imputed to the Croats-although Muslim participation in the massacres was notorious. In fact, these allegations aimed at exploiting the inter-Christian conflicts between Catholic Croats and Orthodox Serbs which had facilitated Islam's expansion for a millennium.


Under the authoritarian Communist rule of Tito-a Croat-the Muslim religion benefited from being recognized as Muslim nationality. It was the only group defined by religious criteria, whereas others were characterized by their ethnic differences. The deliberate policy of allowing the Islamization of the Orthodox Serbian homeland (Kosovo and Bosnia-Herzegovina) to continue also earned Tito the economic and political support of the Islamic world and perpetuated inter-Christian schisms. The communist dogma of human brotherhood once again froze the conflicts without resolving them. In 1991, before the conflict erupted, the English edition of Alija Izetbegovic's Islamic Declaration (1970) was published in Sarajevo. It specifically stated: "There can be neither peace nor coexistence between Arabia, the cradle of Islam and non-Islamic social and political institutions." And his conclusion affirmed:


'The Islamic movement must, and can, take over power as soon as it is morally and numerically so strong that it can not only destroy the existing non- Islamic power, but also build up a new Islamic one’.


Underneath the camouflage of "the multicultural Islamic state" and the "five hundred years of peaceful coexistence," Bosnian Serbs recognized the shari'a system which had decimated them. Hence, the cruelty of the fighting in Bosnia reflected the historical confrontation which, instead of being settled by dialogue, erupted in hatred. Its barbarity expresses the revenge of repressed history, a parody of the distorted myth of idyllic coexistence. Izetbegovic described the Canadian UN commander, Major-General Lewis W. MacKenzie, as "an ignorant man" for his statement in New York that:
‘both sides’ in the war were filled with hatred. According to Izetbegovic, this could only have been said by someone who knew nothing of Sarajevo's Muslims and their ‘500-year tradition of tolerance’.
Izetbegovic's reference to an "Ottoman paradise" scandalized Serbs, Greeks, and Armenians. Innocent individuals regardless of religion have become victims of a past which, because it was buried in silence, vengefully returns, accompanied by appalling acts of violence. Those responsible are the politicians who, to safeguard their own interests, tried to impose the myth of tolerance on their victims”.

http://lamar.colostate.edu/~grjan/kosovohistory.html


6 posted on 08/18/2006 2:07:00 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Westlander; KDD

Interesting. Thanks for your posts KDD. Informative/educational.


10 posted on 08/18/2006 3:10:13 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Westlander

Bush's fault


11 posted on 08/18/2006 3:11:57 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: Westlander

Clinton's dumbass war gets no condemnation from the peace wussies???


12 posted on 08/18/2006 3:16:52 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: Westlander

I was stationed outside Srebrenica in 2001. Where is Kamenica? I don't recall that name off the top of my head.

Is it south by Vlasenica or farther north towards Bijelina?


15 posted on 08/18/2006 4:20:37 AM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: Westlander; Bokababe; FormerLib; kronos77

Bump


18 posted on 08/18/2006 4:26:23 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: tgambill

Ping


20 posted on 08/18/2006 4:46:09 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Westlander; All
Naser Oric, Muslim Commander of Srebrenica was found guilty for warcrimes commited against Christian Serbs that led to revenge attack on Srebrenica by Serbs. He, the Muslim commander that caused TWO slaughters , first under his direct orders slaughtering Christian Serbs, and second when Serb soldiers, mostly familly members and relatives of slaughtered Christians attacked his stronghold at Srebrenica and slaughtered some 3,000 mostly his combatants, so He, the guy that started it all, WAS convicted for warcrimes on sentence of 3 (THREE) years in prisson!!! Due to the fact that he was over 3 years in prisson allready, he was imidiatly released from UN custody unit. Frankly my dear, I would‚t care if they found 1,000,000 muslim bodies. In Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan or Iraq.
30 posted on 08/18/2006 5:59:23 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary (Go IDF!))
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To: Westlander

More dead Christians.


61 posted on 08/18/2006 1:50:38 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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