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Nuclear war starting in 10 days?
Pravda.Ru ^ | 8/11/2006 | Source: Moskovskii Komsomolets

Posted on 08/17/2006 9:36:57 PM PDT by Centurion2000

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To: Centurion2000
"Even if russia got involved it's launchers are no longer enough to saturate the US and besides that ... I live outside of a primary strike zone. "

Rooskie nukes are like their Katooshas, no "primary strike zone". Better to hit the bunker.

yitbos

141 posted on 08/18/2006 12:46:29 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
"Is a limited nuclear war possible in the Middle East at this point in time. . . "

Limited to how many nukes Israel and Iran have. Although, the U.S. might give IDF some tacticals or neutron bombs? Kissinger always liked tacticals for the defense of Europe: "They are cheap and cause a lot of damage."

yitbos

142 posted on 08/18/2006 12:58:32 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: Centurion2000
August 22nd? Oh fiddlesticks, I guess this means the next season of "24" is out of the question....
143 posted on 08/18/2006 1:21:57 AM PDT by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of all mankind...AlJazeera is its PR Firm)
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To: Quix; ConservativeMind

A few pertinent links on the "Bible Codes":

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9712/opinion/wittes.html

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/bib-code.html

http://www.torahcodes.co.il/


144 posted on 08/18/2006 1:31:49 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Centurion2000

2006 Marker / Refresher / Timely

Surviving a Nuclear Attack [Anywhere]

Everyone’s first reaction is wrong because the problem is not, in fact, the nuclear blast. If at this point you’re still alive and uninjured — and after a Hiroshima-sized explosion at ground level, 99 percent of the people in the D.C. area

[or anywhere else for that matter]


are — then your real problem is the radioactive dust that the blast threw into the air. According to the estimates in National Planning Scenario No. 1, an explosion that kills 15,000 people outright could eventually expose 200,000 people to lethal doses of radiation if they stay exposed and unprotected in the fallout path for 24 hours. Sitting downwind in gridlock, with your vehicle’s windshield shattered, goes a long way toward giving you a lethal dose. All sorts of simple alternatives — moving away from downwind, seeking proper shelter, even taking a shower — go a long way toward saving you.

Fallout is simply radioactive dust, launched miles into the air in a mushroom cloud and then carried on the wind. Much of it is alpha particles, whose radiation cannot penetrate bare skin, or beta particles, which cannot penetrate layers of clothing. Both are most dangerous if inhaled — or if they settle on food that is eaten unwashed. More deadly are the gamma rays, whose radiation can go through walls. But even gammas cannot hurt you from cloud height. The danger starts when the dust settles to earth.

The ideal is to avoid the fallout in the first place. In apocalyptic gridlock, you cannot drive very far. But you may not have to. Normal winds blow the cloud into a long but narrow plume, just a few miles across. In typical Washington-area weather, Virginia, Montgomery County in Maryland, and most of the District itself are not in the fallout path at all. People in the path could conceivably walk out of the fallout zone in the 10 or 15 minutes before the dust begins to fall — if they know which way to go.

But, of course, you cannot count on perfectly typical weather. The wind might shift; the breeze you feel at ground level may be blowing crosswise to the radioactive clouds five miles up; a still day might cause the fallout to seep outward slowly in all directions; sudden rain or snow could wash the dust out of the sky, heavily dousing everything beneath the storm but sparing areas farther out.

If you do not want to trust in weather and traffic, the alternative is what the experts call “sheltering in place.” You want to be in a building, as solid as possible to block the gamma rays, as airtight as possible to keep out radioactive dust. You need to turn off air conditioning, close vents, seal the seams around windows and doorways. If you wondered what former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was talking about, this is what you need the duct tape for. Abandon rooms with windows broken by the blast.

The dust that does not seep into the building will settle outside, on the roof and on the ground, emitting gamma rays. A car with an intact windshield stops 30 to 50 percent of the radiation — probably not enough, however, to save someone who’s inside the car and stuck in traffic a few miles downwind of ground zero. A wood-frame house, similarly, stops just 30 to 60 percent of gamma rays. A windowless basement stops 90 percent. The middle floors of a concrete apartment building, safely away from both roof and ground, stop 99 percent or more. But there is no 100 percent protection.

For those whom evacuation and shelter fail — or for those, like the thousands fleeing in blind panic, who never try either — there is still decontamination. A lethal dose of radiation takes time to build. The sooner the radioactive dust is off the skin, the better. And it is not that hard to remove. “Radiation contamination is easier than chemical,” said Col. David Jarrett, a medical doctor and the director of the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda. “Simply removing the clothes and washing takes off up to 90 percent.”

Every major Washington-area hospital has some decontamination facilities, but 10,000 radiation patients in one day would swamp them. So mass decontamination falls to fire departments, with their mobile pumps and generators; their protective gear; their hazardous-materials experience; and, because both Maryland and Virginia have nuclear power reactors, their years of radiation training. Area firefighters can quickly set up special decontamination tents, and they have plans to take over buildings that have lots of showers — so high school gyms, for example, are a good place to head for. In the chaos of those first hours, said Michael Cline, state coordinator at the Virginia Department of Emergency Management, “the real key is to make sure people go to those facilities.” It will take every firefighter available to man the decontamination sites, and every cop to control the crowds pouring in panic out of the city.



FOR ENTIRE ARTICLE, GO TO

NUCLEAR THREAT INITIATIVE [NTI]



http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2005_6_24.html#A0F258F9


http://www.nti.org/index.html

REFERENCE LINK:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429926/posts


145 posted on 08/18/2006 1:59:34 AM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.gravityteen.com)
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To: ConservativeMind
the square root of every 15th number from each 2nd line of text

Dammit! That's my email encryption algorithm. Who blabbed?

146 posted on 08/18/2006 2:00:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: JockoManning

SHELTERING IN PLACE INFO --




SNIP:


If you do not want to trust in weather and traffic, the alternative is what the experts call “sheltering in place.” You want to be in a building, as solid as possible to block the gamma rays, as airtight as possible to keep out radioactive dust. You need to turn off air conditioning, close vents, seal the seams around windows and doorways. If you wondered what former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was talking about, this is what you need the duct tape for. Abandon rooms with windows broken by the blast.

The dust that does not seep into the building will settle outside, on the roof and on the ground, emitting gamma rays. A car with an intact windshield stops 30 to 50 percent of the radiation — probably not enough, however, to save someone who’s inside the car and stuck in traffic a few miles downwind of ground zero.

A wood-frame house, similarly, stops just 30 to 60 percent of gamma rays. A windowless basement stops 90 percent. The middle floors of a concrete apartment building, safely away from both roof and ground, stop 99 percent or more. But there is no 100 percent protection.

For those whom evacuation and shelter fail — or for those, like the thousands fleeing in blind panic, who never try either — there is still decontamination. A lethal dose of radiation takes time to build. The sooner the radioactive dust is off the skin, the better. And it is not that hard to remove. “Radiation contamination is easier than chemical,” said Col. David Jarrett, a medical doctor and the director of the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda. “Simply removing the clothes and washing takes off up to 90 percent.”


END OF SNIP
===


147 posted on 08/18/2006 2:30:16 AM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.gravityteen.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary
" biblical Armageddon" is still a long time away. If what's happening now coincides what most think, much has to happen before we get near the end of time on this earth. Maybe another 150 years or so. Believe it or not, we win this war according to prophacy, but peace doesn't last long.

How did you come to the conclusion that we still have 150 years before Christ returns?

148 posted on 08/18/2006 2:33:06 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Mo1
Does this mean I should move up my hair appointment?

Um, the 1980s mantra "Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse" doesn't quite work with nuclear explosions.

Even if you die from radiation poisoning, instead of the explosive effects, anybody else left around to
appreciate your remains might beconcerned with other issues.

OTOH, as maybe as the Sam Kinison piece goes, "gay necrophiliacs" might take an interest...

149 posted on 08/18/2006 3:38:33 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Centurion2000
If it comes to that, somebody's got to survive. I won't where I live. But at my age, it's probably just as well.

Afterwards, when you have time, have a little memorial ceremony for us, okay?

And good luck.

But I don't expect it this year.
150 posted on 08/18/2006 4:08:31 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: gotribe

"Short squeeze will be on for 8/22,..."

Wow! The MOS...Mother of All Shorts!

Ten Thousand hedge funds jamming the market on 8/22.


151 posted on 08/18/2006 4:12:01 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Centurion2000

I had a friend connected with defense visit my home for several days a couple of weeks ago. I expressed my concern over Iran with him, and expressed the view I did not see any way to take Iran's nuclear capability except a nuclear war. He assured me we can take it out with our new updated Tomahawk missiles.


152 posted on 08/18/2006 4:56:55 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: ConservativeMind
By the way, Quix, did your Bible code newsletter derive this from the square root of every 15th number from each 2nd line of text?

It's amazing what people see in the Bible, and they are convinced they are the only ones with spiritual discernment.
153 posted on 08/18/2006 5:03:39 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Centurion2000
Curiously, this year the night of August 22nd happens to be night Muslims will celebrate the journey of their prophet Mohammed to Jerusalem and his ascension into heaven

And his immediate dispatch to hell after St. Peter discovered the clerical error.
154 posted on 08/18/2006 5:16:12 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: GarySpFc
John 10 The Shepherd and His Flock 1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

That is so true.

155 posted on 08/18/2006 5:18:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Centurion2000
If the sun comes up on Wednesday August, 23rd as it always does, and around the globe things are running it's normal pace, this writer, and others that fueled this 8/22 story have "Lots of splaining to do".
156 posted on 08/18/2006 5:25:22 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: ndt

I was just gonna ask if someone wanted to give me one of those big motor homes so I could tour whats left.....might even arrange a 501 (c)3 write off :-)


157 posted on 08/18/2006 5:28:29 AM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...close the borders! N O W !!! Semper Fi !!)
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To: Centurion2000
Considering it is Moscow arming Israel's worst enemies (Iran & Syria, who in turn arm Hizballah & Hamas) if the Middle East blows up into full scale war, the Russians should not wonder why.
158 posted on 08/18/2006 5:37:49 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

4 days left to go


159 posted on 08/18/2006 5:44:51 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Centurion2000
Israel has already achieved the minimum solution by getting rid of “Hezbollah” across the border.

what's with the hezbollah in quotes, thing? Trying to soften their image...blame it on Israel for making Hezbollah come across as "the bad guys"?

What more do they need? UN has already offered to fill the occupied area with troops and peace-keepers

gosh.....*I* feel better already. The UN has my back? YEAH!

/extremely heavy sarcasm

160 posted on 08/18/2006 5:47:33 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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