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"Fake But Accurate" Science?
The American Thinker ^ | August 17th, 2006 | Jonathan David Carson

Posted on 08/17/2006 11:03:30 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

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To: Grampa Dave

21 posted on 08/17/2006 2:14:02 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Excellent!


22 posted on 08/17/2006 2:18:03 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: weegee; SunkenCiv; gleeaikin; Renfield; Ichneumon; Noumenon; MineralMan

Thanks weegee; I'll have to get back to this one. I don't recall who has it, but there's a "science" ping list around here somewhere whose membership might be interested in this thread, no? Pinging a few that come to mind who might know...


23 posted on 08/17/2006 3:13:50 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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In general, we found MBH98 and MBH99 [papers by Mann] to be somewhat obscure and incomplete and the criticisms of MM03/05a/05b [papers by McIntyre and McKitrick] to be valid and compelling.

An excerpt from McIntyre's and McKitrick's compelling criticisms:

Hockey Sticks, Principal Components and Spurious Significance

This article identifies what is almost certainly a computer programming error in the principal components method used in MBH98. The error causes their PC method to nearly always identify hockey stick shaped series as the “dominant pattern” in a data set (the so-called “first Principal Component” or PC1), even when the data are just random numbers. We carried out 10,000 simulations in which we fed “red noise”, a form of trendless random numbers, into the MBH98 algorithm and, in over 99% of the cases, it produced hockey stick shaped PC1 series. The figure below shows 3 simulated PC1s and the MBH98 reconstruction: can you pick out the reconstruction?

Figure 1. Three simulated PC1s and the MBH98 reconstruction.


24 posted on 08/17/2006 3:23:54 PM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: .cnI redruM; FairOpinion; Pharmboy; blam; Fred Nerks
Suppose his findings, which precisely identified people at high risk of the deadly disease, were accurate even though data were faked?
Heh heh... Hey, I've got one... the mortality rate is still 100 per cent. [rimshot!]
25 posted on 08/17/2006 3:44:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Grampa Dave

I remember when Nat Geog added a letters to the editor section -- something that should be dropped by all magazines in this day and age, when that kind of feedback should appear on the mags' website forum. That was the beginning of the end of NG, and while they do have stuff of interest from time to time, most of it just regurgitated PC BS.


26 posted on 08/17/2006 3:47:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Publius6961

Si la mierda fuera oro, los pobres no estarian en culo.


27 posted on 08/17/2006 3:49:05 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Grampa Dave
A used book dealer reckons that the breadth of my NG collection dating to 1912 makes it suitable for Sotheby's. Either OCD or notions of historical legacy compel me to collect new issues regardless of my feelings. :( However, I get even with NG Lefties by buying used issues for a dime at my library's annual book sale. :)
28 posted on 08/17/2006 3:57:07 PM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

29 posted on 08/17/2006 3:59:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: .cnI redruM
"European investigators last week confirmed that a pioneering oral cancer researcher in Norway had fabricated much of his work. The news left experts in his field with a pressing question: What should they believe now? Suppose his findings, which precisely identified people at high risk of the deadly disease, were accurate even though data were faked?"

I believe that that phrasing constitutes a question, not a finding. Weak premise.

I do think human-caused global warming is nonsense but it's a poor move to base an article on a weak premise

30 posted on 08/17/2006 4:12:01 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: freedumb2003

Thank you for your message. I mean seriously. It sums up my lifetime of experience in the academic establishment.


31 posted on 08/17/2006 6:27:31 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
It sums up my lifetime of experience in the academic establishment.

Ain't that the freaking truth (LOL!)?

32 posted on 08/17/2006 6:35:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: SunkenCiv

"I remember when Nat Geog added a letters to the editor section -- something that should be dropped by all magazines in this day and age, when that kind of feedback should appear on the mags' website forum. That was the beginning of the end of NG, and while they do have stuff of interest from time to time, most of it just regurgitated PC BS."

When did this happened. We hadn't subscribed to NG for over 20 years after our sons hit the teenage years. We were surprised at how the pictures were still great and how the bad science of global warming and enviral whackoism dominated today's NG.


33 posted on 08/18/2006 7:17:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Milhous

We used to have rummage sales at our church. People would bring in years of NG. We seldom sold them at 10 cents.

The Salvation Army and another charity which usually loved our left over items refused to pick up the so called collections of NG. So we started to refusing them when members tried to bring them in for the rummage sales.


34 posted on 08/18/2006 7:20:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave

That happened in the 1980s sometime. I remember reading the leadoff in which the introduction was mentioned, and being puzzled, then checking previous issues and not finding a letters section. I mostly don't care to read letters to the editors, because they're mostly more nonsense and a waste of the news hole. So I'd never noticed there hadn't been any. It's kinda like how I'd never noticed that Muzak is 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off... ;')


35 posted on 08/18/2006 9:57:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks. We stopped subscribing to the NG in the early 1980's.


36 posted on 08/18/2006 10:05:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: .cnI redruM

I noted this sad trend in Scientific American several years ago. I gave up reading that formerly terrific magazine immediately and have not gone back. Sorry to see the same PC disease affect Science.


37 posted on 08/18/2006 10:10:27 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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