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"Fake But Accurate" Science?
The American Thinker ^
| August 17th, 2006
| Jonathan David Carson
Posted on 08/17/2006 11:03:30 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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Mann is a smarmy little creep. The Geophysical Science Community will continue to lose respect until they jettison him.
To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:05:35 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:05:39 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
To: .cnI redruM
European investigators last week confirmed that a pioneering oral cancer researcher in Norway had fabricated much of his work. The news left experts in his field with a pressing question: What should they believe now? Suppose his findings, which precisely identified people at high risk of the deadly disease, were accurate even though data were faked? Supposing pigs could fly?
This article simply reinfoprces my absolute belief that most scientists today are charlatans.
If you held a gun to my head and forced me to identify one cause, I would be forced to say the insinuation of the gay perverts where they don't belong.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:10:49 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: Publius6961
SCIENTIFIC EXPERTS HAVE DETERMINED THAT THEIR SALARIES DEPEND ON PLEASING POLITICIANS
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:14:47 AM PDT
by
NaughtiusMaximus
(WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
To: .cnI redruM
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:16:58 AM PDT
by
Sloth
('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
To: .cnI redruM
If they are certain that the data is fake but accurate... then it should not be a big deal to get accurate data.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:21:49 AM PDT
by
kjam22
To: Publius6961
>>>>This article simply reinfoprces my absolute belief that most scientists today are charlatans
I'd say modern scientists are payed for their results. Their employers know their normative stand on a given research issue and use it to predict the outcome of the 'research'. This makes them more like hired guns than actual scientists.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:24:01 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
(The western response should be proportional. That is, kill them before they kill us.)
To: NaughtiusMaximus
The warming is thus anthropogenic. It comes from rotting dead pirates.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:25:28 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
(The western response should be proportional. That is, kill them before they kill us.)
To: .cnI redruM
"Mann is a smarmy little creep. The Geophysical Science Community will continue to lose respect until they jettison him."
That's when he'll show up on some Democrat Party ticket for congress or senate.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:34:30 AM PDT
by
AMHN
(Book Survey: Which is greater "Truth" or "Love"? FReepmail a reply)
To: .cnI redruM
"This makes them more like hired guns than actual scientists."
As my flaming liberal younger brother, MIT PhD, keeps reminding me...
The pen is mighter than the sword!
Maybe it is...but a lie is also harder to disprove than to prove...thus the prove the negative.
They know it works...cast doubt to win hearts and minds!
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:39:57 AM PDT
by
AMHN
(Book Survey: Which is greater "Truth" or "Love"? FReepmail a reply)
To: .cnI redruM
This makes them more like hired guns than actual scientists.Boy, you're spot on with that one.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:40:43 AM PDT
by
NaughtiusMaximus
(WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
To: NaughtiusMaximus
Not even a ping for me ... you shameless graphics pirate ...
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:40:54 AM PDT
by
tx_eggman
(Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
To: NaughtiusMaximus
Oh, and check out your original post ... I couldn't resist
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:41:34 AM PDT
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tx_eggman
(Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
To: tx_eggman
I'm sorry. I apologize and acknowledge your too neat to resist "baby."
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:43:06 AM PDT
by
NaughtiusMaximus
(WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
To: NaughtiusMaximus
I do like to have fun .. but I'm not mean .. I restored it to the original.
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posted on
08/17/2006 11:49:09 AM PDT
by
tx_eggman
(Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
To: .cnI redruM
Its not just the Climate community that suffers from this. Real scientific efforts also lose credibility, and the temptation to create the "right" data to support your thesis seems to be everywhere.
Seems someone said something about the people who support "global warming" researchers being born every minute...
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posted on
08/17/2006 12:42:48 PM PDT
by
azemt
(Where are we going, and why are we in this basket?)
To: azemt
Its not just the Climate community that suffers from this. Real scientific efforts also lose credibility, and the temptation to create the "right" data to support your thesis seems to be everywhere. This seems clear when even papers that only cover the subject of showing the error in some previous paper which claimed to show a particular mechanism of anthropogenic global warming, the author feels compelled to include a statement of faith in AGW where his paper doesn't even address the broader question in any manner. Not sometimes...nearly always.
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posted on
08/17/2006 1:07:14 PM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: .cnI redruM; weegee; abb; Milhous; george76; martin_fierro
"The betrayal-of-science establishment has adopted the standards of Dan Rather and Reuters and should be equally trusted."
I gave up on Science the non scientific bs posing as a magazine of science in the 1990's.
Our grand daughter gave my wife a subscription to National Geographic last Christmas, because the gd likes to see pictures of bears and critters.
They were stacked in an unread pile, and this past weekend her father an engineer who hires, fires and manages engineers notice the pile. He asked why we hadn't read them. I told him to look a few of the magazines and scan them.
After about 20 minutes, he had scanned the ytd stack of NG mags. He said that they were so enviral whacko and non science related, he wouldn't allow them in his house anymore.
To: .cnI redruM
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posted on
08/17/2006 2:13:12 PM PDT
by
fso301
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