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Arrest in JonBenet Ramsey Case Expected "Shortly"
8.16.06 | Michael King

Posted on 08/16/2006 1:17:08 PM PDT by mhking

An arrest in the JonBenet Ramsey case is due to happen "shortly," according to sources in our newsroom -- I know I can't post the link to our site (we're a Gannett station, and despite the "ban", I would welcome the traffic), but most of you know where I work and what the site is...

According to our sister station in Denver, an arrest took place early this morning in Thailand.

Stand by for details and updates as they come in.


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To: 50sDad

If his middle name had been Wayne, that would have clinched if for me in a heartbeat.


1,041 posted on 08/16/2006 5:31:37 PM PDT by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: MAWG
I was drawn to this comment by Lawrence Schiller who I consider to be an expert on this case. He said this suspect was known to the police before and :

Among the facts he said were not generally known was the murder weapon and what the killer did with it.

1,042 posted on 08/16/2006 5:32:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: 50sDad

James Earl Ray, Mark David Chapman, John Wayne Gacy, Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan.


1,043 posted on 08/16/2006 5:34:31 PM PDT by Zman516 ("Allah" is Satan, actually.)
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To: CAWats; r9etb
There's been several reports of a DNA match and if he was a registered sex offender as r9etb found out and gave a reliable link too, then it would be simple to check for a match.
1,044 posted on 08/16/2006 5:35:27 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I've always had a heart for Israel, though I was raised catholic. Reading Exodus makes me cry. Moses makes me cry.


1,045 posted on 08/16/2006 5:36:09 PM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: AmeriBrit
All that I can say is they better have a perfect DNA match, or this case is going to go no where once the MSM talk show Defense Attorneys dissect it.

sw

1,046 posted on 08/16/2006 5:36:18 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Jo Nuvark

What a nice tradition -- that will be a lovely family heirloom.

I know that I spent Christmas 1996 with my mother and husband, because until she passed away 2 years ago, I have spent every CHristmas with her since my first birthday, and every Christmas with my husband since we were married 26 years ago.

I did not spend Christmas 1996 with my sister because we haven't celebrated together since the early 80s. I know my aunt was with us Christmas 1991, the year my father died. Perhaps the Karr family had a similar reason to specifically remember Christmas Eve 1996. Once you start to piece together events of a certain year, it's really not all that hard.


1,047 posted on 08/16/2006 5:37:43 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Doc Savage
I agree with a LOT of what you say about this case...

One thing I found tremendously interesting was that the governor at the time squashed the investigation being conducted by the state police. That governor was Roy Romer, who later became chairman of the DNC. Romer, last I heard was superintendent of Los Angeles county schools in California...

There is a lot more to this story than just a simple murder and whoever they arrest that is not tied intimately to the family, I will suspect a frame-up job...
1,048 posted on 08/16/2006 5:43:39 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: 50sDad

Hillary Rodham Clinton


1,049 posted on 08/16/2006 5:48:11 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: mhking

bttt


1,050 posted on 08/16/2006 5:49:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jo Nuvark
Yes, here are some statists to get yourself educated with. If you'd like to study the issue further, take some criminal justice or psychology classes. Pedophiles generally fit one of five categories, only one of which desires to kill/torture/adupt children.

The word "Pedophile" is Latin for "Child Love". Pedophiles are ususally immature, ordinarly harmless individuals who have a hidden and very sick fixation to have sexual pleasure with children. Do you want to kill or torture someone you have a sexual fixation for? Typical examples of Pedophiles are singer Michael Jackson (seduces 12 year old boys), victorian era author Lewis Carroll (got off on photographing nude pre-prebucent girls), and teacher Mary Kay Letorrnal (left husband for 12 yaer old boy). In all three cases, they're depraved individuals and sick minded puppies, but they'd probably rather slit their wrists than "harm" their little "lover" physically. Saying a child killer is a typical pedophile is like saying Eileen Wornos was a typical lesbian.

If you want to protect your kids from baby rapists, here are some statictics you may want to educate yourself about:

http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/428/428examsample.htm

http://www.ncmec.org/en_US/publications/NC70.pdf

Myths and Facts About Child Sex Abuse

http://crime.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/2210

Myth – All sex offenders are child molesters and all child molesters are predators.

Fact – The FBI-UCR, National Crime Victimization Survey reveals that only 23% of sex crimes are against someone under 18; and the Bureau of Justice Statistics shows that predators represent around three percent of all sex offenders and child killers are less than one percent of all sex offenders.

Myth – All child molesters are pedophiles.

Fact – Pedophile means someone attracted to and obsesses of pre-pubescent children. Studies by the U.S Department of Health and Human Services show that less than twenty-nine percent of sex offenses are against children under age twelve.

Myth – Strangers are lurking at school bus stops or around playgrounds looking for children to molest.

Fact – According to all reliable resources, around 90% of all child molestation cases involve someone who is a family member, or someone who is close to or trusted by the family.

Myth – Depraved adults commit all sex crimes.

Fact – Over 40% of sex crimes committed against someone under 18 are by a juvenile; most are consensual sex by teenagers, others are older siblings acting out against a relative .

http://www.keepyourchildsafe.org/child-safety-facts.asp

Research done by our organization indicates as many as 1 out of 20 adults has active pedophile thoughts or tendencies

Recent studies are beginning to show that boys, not girls, are more likely to be sexually abused outside of the home.

In a study done by our organization of several hundred middle class families, not one parent scored high enough on prevention methods or sexual abuse knowledge to provide adequate protection to their children

About half of all molestations occur at the hands of a parent. The others occur at the hands of someone close to the child other than a parent. Less than 1 percent of all sexual abuse occurs at the hands of a stranger or abductor.

In our general observations of online pedophiles, groups usually consisted of about 15-20 percent females.

As many as 60 percent of male victims report a female as either the primary abuser or a participant in some episodes of abuse.

http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/hudson/tenmyths.html

Pedophilia is a particular type of compulsive sexual disorder in which an adult (man or woman) desires prepubescent children. The vast majority of the clerical sex-abuse scandals now coming to light do not involve pedophilia. Rather, they involve ephebophilia -- homosexual attraction to adolescents. While the total number of sexual abusers in the priesthood is much higher than those guilty of pedophilia, it still amounts to less than 2 percent -- comparable to the rate among married men (Jenkins, Pedophiles and Priests).

http://ezinearticles.com/?Pedophilia-or-Ephebophilia--The-Truth&id=25340

The media reported the Michael Jackson case incessantly for the duration of his trial. What was tragically lacking are the facts regarding pedophiles/ephebophiles and sexual child abuse. Studies reveal 62% of girls and 31% of boys will be sexually abused by age 18—considered low based on health services. 80% are sexually abused by a family member; 19% are abused by someone the child knows and trusts; government statistics reveal 1% are abused by strangers.

The unbelievable truth: Pedophiles/Ephebophiles conduct themselves as average and ordinary to the world. He or she may be a leader in the church; the community; or business. Pedophiles/ephebophiles seldom fit a classic stereotype—education, socioeconomic status, career or culture. Furthermore, sexual abuse/incest is more difficult to believe or accept when the person we like, admire, love, and/or marry is the perpetrator. This is precisely why Jackson’s family, fans and the uninformed can unequivocally believe he could not possibly be an Ephebophile—sexual attraction to adolescents.

Even more frightening Pedophiles/Ephebophiles do not hold beliefs reflecting society’s moral and ethical values. Therefore, coupled with t he child’s innocence and trust of the abuser usually pressure or violence is seldom required. Thus, the perpetrator can unequivocally state, “I love children. Never-ever. I could never harm a child or anyone. It’s not in my heart. It’s not who I am.” --Michael Jackson, 1993

1,051 posted on 08/16/2006 5:50:18 PM PDT by BillyBoy (ILLINOIS ELECTION "CHOICES:" Rod Bag-o-$hit or Judas Barf Too-Pinka)
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To: EnquiringMind

See what I mean? It doesn't take much to figure out
where you were in '96.


1,052 posted on 08/16/2006 5:52:49 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: BunnySlippers
" Murder Weapon."

You mean what he used to bash her skull in? That blow was post mortem and it is widely believed to be the kind of flashlight Cops use to hit people over the head with. I like Schiller too.

1,053 posted on 08/16/2006 5:53:01 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: BillyBoy

Thanks BillyBoy.

This is information that I did not know. Sounds like
you are in Law Enforcement. I am not. But I appreciate
the education, though in an area I find disgusting and
perverse. What a world we live in.

I was of the impression the pedophiles also murdered and
tortured their young victims. But your explanation has
been enlightening. Is there a term (other than pervert)
for those who torture young children? And why isn't
sexual attack considered torture?

Thanks again for the info.


1,054 posted on 08/16/2006 5:58:35 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: BunnySlippers

Oh, gee. Let's see...like Schiller knows what it was! Let me guess - baseball bat thrown out behind the house?

Or maybe garrote found tightened around her neck?


1,055 posted on 08/16/2006 6:01:02 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: spectre

are they going to answer the questions about how he got into the house? and what did he do, get Patsy to write the ransom note? and on and on. if this guy really did it - they are going to have to explain every aspect of how the crime was committed - how the house was entered, the note, the ransom details (which were false, since the child was dead), the practice note, and on and on.


1,056 posted on 08/16/2006 6:05:20 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: BillyBoy

RE: Michael Jackson

I always wondered that no one pointed out Michael was
always entertaining boys. If he was just an innocent
man who loved children, why weren't there any girls
sharing his bed? Not that I would approve BTW.


1,057 posted on 08/16/2006 6:06:15 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: Shermy

ROFLMAO!!!


1,058 posted on 08/16/2006 6:09:50 PM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: r9etb

bttt


1,059 posted on 08/16/2006 6:12:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: BillyBoy

Well done post, but this seems high: "Studies reveal 62% of girls and 31% of boys will be sexually abused by age 18"


1,060 posted on 08/16/2006 6:18:34 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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