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1 posted on 08/16/2006 8:25:07 AM PDT by Moonman62
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ARe you ready to be called a smoke nazi? Sis boom bah, looks like the evidence is there, after all.


2 posted on 08/16/2006 8:27:50 AM PDT by Froufrou
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There's nothing wrong with smoking. None whatsoever.

(sarcasm)


3 posted on 08/16/2006 8:28:35 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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Damn, I didn't smoke AROUND my kids, but I still feel guilty as a whiff might have gotten through.


4 posted on 08/16/2006 8:29:11 AM PDT by sandbar
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Advocacy science.
5 posted on 08/16/2006 8:29:15 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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macacas


6 posted on 08/16/2006 8:31:16 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeĀ®)
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7 posted on 08/16/2006 8:32:36 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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Humans are far more resilient than the "victimization" lobby wants you to believe. After all, our ancestors were reared in smoke filled caves through ice ages....so stop this nonsense and mind your own business, please.


9 posted on 08/16/2006 8:32:52 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In war the only moral value is to win. America, you must become ruthless.)
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My dad did three and a half packs of Camels a day and my mom finished off two packs of Pall Malls. We lived in a three room apartment. I must already have died and just don't know it.


11 posted on 08/16/2006 8:34:40 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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I think that if secondhand smoke would be even slightly dangerous to any group it would be children and the elderly or those with breathing problems. No matter what science says, its just plain common courtesy not to smoke around anybody who doesnt smoke themselves, I have been that way since I picked up the nasty habit.


12 posted on 08/16/2006 8:34:50 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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This article has failed to demonstrate exactly HOW second-hand smoke effects the lungs of the *unborn*. I understand that the chemicals in smoke can get to the fetus through blood and do various damage, but how does that affect the alveoli? A fetus can't breathe air, for crying out loud! So how does smoke specifically irritate the unborn lungs?


13 posted on 08/16/2006 8:37:09 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The trouble with muslim immigrants: There can be no integration without inebriation!)
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UC Davis researchers today described in unprecedented biochemical and anatomical detail how cigarette smoke damages the lungs of unborn and newborn children.

And on another thread these same people are denying that the unborn are children at all.

And silly me, I thought unborn children didn't use their lungs, so I'm kinda wonderin' how the smoke gets in there to damage 'em.

ML/NJ

15 posted on 08/16/2006 8:39:30 AM PDT by ml/nj
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The stats for asthma are puzzling since 1980 as they don't seem to correlate to either smoking or air pollution.


16 posted on 08/16/2006 8:40:33 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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This just junk science. Everybody knows smoke is good for babies. Especially newborns.


17 posted on 08/16/2006 8:40:54 AM PDT by sagar
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smokers don't light up around babies as a rule...non-issue


19 posted on 08/16/2006 8:41:34 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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Can we still say tobacconazis or should we use the more current term: tobaccofascists?
22 posted on 08/16/2006 8:43:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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25 posted on 08/16/2006 8:46:30 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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Second Hand Smoke kills aliens in faraway galaxies.


31 posted on 08/16/2006 8:51:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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I wish to make smoking mandatory.


33 posted on 08/16/2006 8:52:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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Smoking is bad for you; I don't know anyone who has ever argued otherwise, including myself. Let's get that out of the way for the logic deprived.

Junk Science is real and does no one a service, except perhaps the public funding advocates and the neurotic.
I notice that, as usual, the report is long on conclusions and totally devoid of fact. No methodology. No mention of a control group.

No discussion about the validity of rat physiology as it relates to humans.
No discussion of the mixing of rats and monkeys.
No clue as to what data was encluded from the conclusions or the summary for public consumption.
No mention of the obvious question: How does this study corelate the improvement in newborn lung development with decreased incidence of smoking in the last 40 years.
Do they track?

One would think this would be a validating corelation. For instance, if they track in reverse, it would point to a fatal flaw in the study.

My suspicion is they don't track; thereby the obvious was ignored.

35 posted on 08/16/2006 8:52:15 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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STUDIES PROVE NOTHING.
Who processed the data and how?
What data was used?
How was it collected?
Was it Faulty?
Was it misinterpreted or is it being misrepresented?

Since we do not know the answers to these questions the study is worthless.


46 posted on 08/16/2006 8:57:52 AM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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