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Prosecutor: Mackinac Bridge was target (plan for cell phones)
The Saginaw News ^ | JUSTIN ENGEL08/12/06

Posted on 08/12/2006 3:11:03 PM PDT by SE Mom

Tuscola County prosecutors filed terrorism-related charges Saturday against three men who they say bought dozens of cell phones Friday in Caro in a globally coordinated plot involving the Mackinac Bridge.

They charged brothers Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 21, and Louai Abdelhamied Othman, 23, along with their cousin, Maruan Awad Muhareb, 18, with identical counts of collecting material to support terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target with intent to committ terrorism.

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To: SE Mom
in a globally coordinated plot involving the Mackinac Bridge.

This former Michigander sez, "Hang 'em high!"

301 posted on 08/12/2006 5:59:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement=Suicide | Hezbo rockets carry "peaceheads")
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Oh but it would be Al Gore's fault since he invented the internet! I knew he was in cahoots with the bad guys.


302 posted on 08/12/2006 6:00:49 PM PDT by rintense
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To: sneakers

bttt


303 posted on 08/12/2006 6:01:15 PM PDT by sneakers (Freedom is the answer to the human condition)
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To: MOgirl

"I imagine that the fact my son's 1st day of school is the 22nd has alot to do with my "gut feeling", but we know they are more than willing (happy in fact) to kill children."

A large scale attack upon schools and schoolchildren would provoke a bloodbath in this country. And what a soft target, controlled by the cushiest bastion of PC in any community. Pray that this isn't the case, or if it is, that they will fail.


304 posted on 08/12/2006 6:03:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Miss Marple; dakine; oceanview
You can risk your life if you wish. My grandchildren need to be able to grow up.

Thank you. I have worked as a civilian contractor, specifically on Lawful Interdiction Devices.

I am sick of people whining about their rights while we are in a battle with people who want to kill all of us, including our children and granchildren. We suspended some civil rights during WWII, and they were restored after the war. The same thing should apply here.

I will defend your rights, and mine. Congress punted, and DID NOT declare war. Therefore any suspension of civil (or any) rights is unconstitutional. I know for certain that we are in a battle with evil people that want us dead. And one of the methods that they employ to that end is the exploitation if ignorance (not calling you ignorant) regarding technology.

Many others, including dakine, have attempted to clarify that the technology management is handled very well by private American technology. Yet some come along and quote news media as the ultimate source of knowledge and wisdom, further demanding the Executive branch to cripple communications. All dissenting opinion is branded "Bush-bashing". The purists of the Republican party are as despicable as those of the Democrat party. You both abandon conservatives and imperil our republic.

305 posted on 08/12/2006 6:04:35 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: rintense

Chuckle


306 posted on 08/12/2006 6:05:39 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: GarySpFc
With the easy availability of composites it would not be hard to design and manufacture ME163 (except use solid rocket engine?) replicas to be used as manned kamikaze interceptors. For quick assembly fold down and lock wings. The whole thing including launch ramp would fit in a semi trailer.

W.
307 posted on 08/12/2006 6:06:18 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: xkaydet65

Yes, but no follow-up. I wish the other cases were handled that way. I remember hearing of cases during the past few year, but assumed they were turned down, and left.


308 posted on 08/12/2006 6:06:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: Deo volente

I hope we have eyes and ears inside these Mosques.


309 posted on 08/12/2006 6:07:32 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

OK. We have an obvious threat with the phones. What is your solution?


310 posted on 08/12/2006 6:08:15 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: fso301

My understanding is that lithium batteries are internally fused to prevent explosion from a short circuit.


311 posted on 08/12/2006 6:09:09 PM PDT by printhead
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
They have weapons attached? Seems like the people that attacked us last time did not worry about their pictures being taken.... They even died performing the deed. What kind of deterrent is a camera for a person willing to die?

The camera itself is not a deterrent, it is a tool to allow us to get to them before the deed, so that their death is in a time and manner of OUR choosing, not theirs.

Prayers up!

312 posted on 08/12/2006 6:09:42 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

let's not get off track here.

there is no constitutional right to be able to buy an activated cell phone anonymously. as such, it can be regulated by rule of law. there are freepers (not you, I hope) who also think the security checks at airport check-in violate the 4th amendment. our constitution is not a suicide pact.

no one is talking about crippling national communications either. just some regulations.


313 posted on 08/12/2006 6:09:46 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: GarySpFc
That would be for use against civilian aircraft and not bridges of course.

W.
314 posted on 08/12/2006 6:11:52 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

Yes, it would not be hard to create a kamikaze interecptor, but using it to take out one of the towers or cables is another matter.


315 posted on 08/12/2006 6:13:00 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

"How many terrorists have you ever heard of obtaining a daisy cutter?"

I wrote that a daisy cutter contains only 7 1/2 tons HE (which, btw, is less than the "way more than 10 tons" you pontificated on in your claim. You changed the subj and avoided addressing the ACTUAL point.

"how long do you think it would take for acid to cut through 24.5 inches "

using 100% nitric, it would eat thru enough corrosion and wire rope to make it separate due to the tension on it very quickly.....wire rope has lots and lots of surface and wonderful capillary action to distribute liquid. It is nothing at all like a single strand 24 1/2" diameter. My WAG would be a few minutes, max.

"Thermite explosives will cut the cable, but even so there are problems, which I shall not detail."

Thats because you're full of it. I said "genuine incendiaries".






316 posted on 08/12/2006 6:15:04 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: MOgirl
"The one target I keep coming back to is schools."

Same here. I've had some very scary thoughts regarding this which I will not post. The "Loose Lips Sink Ships" rule applies here.

317 posted on 08/12/2006 6:15:39 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: dinasour
It doesn't take ten tons. They can make the same stuff that was going to be used on the aircraft quite easily in a few hours if they have the right material and I am sure they could have obtained it. The guy who blew himself up at the football stadium parking lot last year was using TATP and had pounds of it in his back pack and pounds more of it in his apartment, of course he wasn't a terrorist, he made all that explosive to just commit suicide(snicker).

TATP only takes about 7 easy, hair raising steps to create but if you survive the process and are able to transport it without being blown to bits, it could quite easily take down a bridge if place correctly, and it can be remotely detonated.

318 posted on 08/12/2006 6:17:32 PM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: RunningWolf

Yes, it would not be hard to create a kamikaze interecptor, but using it to take out one of the towers or cables is another matter.


319 posted on 08/12/2006 6:17:40 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Diva
Why the Mackinac bridge?

It has A LOT to do with humiliation. But they're not like us when it comes to humiliation; i.e., they are humiliated not only when you kick them like a dog, but when you build things or accomplish things they can't. Thus they attack things like the WTC and the Mackinac bridge because it's obvious to them and to the whole world that their culture, left to its own devices, would never in a million years build anything more magnificent than a turd hut.

320 posted on 08/12/2006 6:17:55 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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