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ANOTHER TRY: Terrorists tested liquid explosives on a jet in 1994 (lots of v interesting info!)
SFC ^ | Aug. 11, 2006 | Simon Reeve,

Posted on 08/11/2006 7:26:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Descriptions of the alleged plot uncovered by British authorities have distinct echoes of the so-called Operation Bojinka, an attempt by supporters of al Qaeda in the mid-1990s to simultaneously destroy airliners over the Pacific using liquid explosives.

The explosives, which can be hidden in a small bottle, like those used for contact lens solution, are hard to detect, and were originally developed by Yousef, whose uncle, Mohammed, was the chief architect of the 9/11 attacks.

In December 1994, Yousef tested his device using a fraction of the explosives planned for the main bombs. Halfway through the short flight, Yousef disappeared into the toilet, took off his shoes and assembled his bomb.

Haruki Ikegami, a 24-year-old Japanese businessman returning home from Cebu, took Yousef's former seat. Two hours later the tiny device exploded, nearly tearing Ikegami in two, killing him and injuring five others. The blast blew a hole in the floor and severed the cables that controlled the plane's flaps.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1994; airlinesecurity; alqaeda; bojinka; bojinkaplot; explosives; globaljihad; gwot; haruki; harukiikegami; ikegami; londonairlineplot; londonattack; opbojinka; operationbojinka; terrorattack; terrorism; uk; ukattack; waronterror; wot; yousef
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To: FairOpinion

But how can this be, for according to the MSM and Mother Cindy, Saddam had no connection at all to terror!/s

61 posted on 08/11/2006 9:39:23 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: aviator

One would think an airline that could boast certified, armed pilots might enjoy better business. It would be to the advantage of any airline these days to foot the bill for strict security procedures (free from government intervention WRT "discrimination") in order to gain more business. It would be to the advantage of us all if there were less regulation in regard to concealed carry.

62 posted on 08/11/2006 10:06:39 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: FairOpinion
Yousef is now serving a life sentence plus 240 years, in isolation, in the Supermax prison in Colorado. But the techniques he used may have been passed on to a newer generation of terrorists.

Yes, by articles like this one. Sheesh!

63 posted on 08/11/2006 10:10:51 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Creating the <a href="">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
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To: gaijin
What you posted here is one reason I'm extremely disappointed in the American people. We've been conditioned all our lives to be sheep and meekly obey any order by our overlords. And like it.

If one really sits back and thinks about things in their totality, it is almost impossible to not believe at least somewhat in conspiracy theories. No, I'm not saying that Fedgov was behind 911, or other similar kookiness, but what is going on certainly feeds the agenda of the continual centralization of government power. The only thing that actually would have made sense for the government to have done after 911 as far as airline flight crews are concerned, is to arm them all. A blatant show of force on every single flight, with the explicit policy that there would be zero tolerance of monkey business or crap on a flight would do more to deter would-be terrorists than anything.

That didn't happen for one primary reason. It would have involved the empowerment of us, the lowly serfs to take charge of our lives and safety. Instead they completely disarmed us down to our swiss army knives. Disarming the only real barrier between us and disaster only makes sense if you are interested in continued and massive increases in government power at all levels.

It also explains why nothing was done about our borders or immigration policies despite the fact that most of the terrorists involved were here illegally on expired visas.

The IRS can tell me if I didn't properly fill out a 1099 form, but is powerless to do anything about a SS# being used by 50 people? Yeah right. Are we supposed to believe in the tooth fairy too?

64 posted on 08/11/2006 10:21:13 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (
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To: FairOpinion

Oplan Bojinka (also known as Operation Bojinka, Project Bojinka, Bojinka Plot, Bojinga)

65 posted on 08/11/2006 10:21:17 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: mentor2k

Actually I saw what appeared to be a lot of mules while visiting the Middle East and they were used for transportation, especially in Cairo.

66 posted on 08/11/2006 10:24:55 PM PDT by xxyyxx
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Many pilots are military officers. I am a pilot fully trained on how to kill you. If it takes airline pilots to be functional in the use of firearms to protect their passengers, what is the problem? Many of the airline pilots are ex-military pilots.
67 posted on 08/11/2006 11:57:57 PM PDT by P3pilotJAX
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To: JSteff
Hmm. Liquid explosive would also explain why there was no "explosive" residue on any panels from Flight 800.

Explosive residue is the nitrates left after the burn, it is always present. In the case of TWA 800, there was so much residue that the seats were stained orange.

But they could not find it, because they lie like Muslims.


68 posted on 08/12/2006 12:03:34 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: FairOpinion

Good find, Bump!

69 posted on 08/12/2006 12:11:36 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: cripplecreek

major issue is our own governments have their eye on the globalist ball and will NOT alienate any major group (i.e. muslims).

My thought on this range from pressure to avoid any trade problems resulting from overt anti-muslim-targetted efforts to pressure to think in terms of eventually world political integration, which would be set back by us declaring open war on the 25% of the world where this is coming from, particularly given that many possible recruits are citizens of the west.

70 posted on 08/12/2006 2:24:28 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: zeugma

all your points are good. well-presented post. no coincidence the orwellian-named patriot act was presented in full very shortly after 9/11. presumably had been on shelf for years waiting for chance to ram it through.

71 posted on 08/12/2006 2:28:10 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: FairOpinion

Thank you FairOpinion for the ping.


72 posted on 08/12/2006 2:54:48 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Your reply is the equivalent of saying that pilots are only supposed to fly safe planes in safe conditions and not be taught emergency procedures. It should be up to them to get and pay for this emergency procedure training? I would think a hijacking might be considered an emergency.

73 posted on 08/12/2006 6:18:22 AM PDT by thile44 (Simplicity is too complex.)
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To: gaijin

74 posted on 08/12/2006 6:35:43 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (What's the difference between Hillary and God? God doesn't think he's Hillary.)
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To: FairOpinion
"But one of the hallmarks of Osama bin Laden's followers is that if they don't succeed once, they will try again. In 1993, militants led by Ramzi Yousef, who was the mastermind of Operation Bojinka, aimed to topple the towers of the World Trade Center by detonating a huge bomb underneath the complex, an explosion that killed six people and injured more than 1,000. In September 2001, al Qaeda returned for another attempt with far more devastating consequences.
75 posted on 08/12/2006 8:16:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: gaijin
Timely reminder.

Means, motive, opportunity. The heros of Flight 93 show how we deny opportunity. The TSA pre-flight screening and the xray and other hi-tech inspections of checked luggage *attempts* to deny means.

Yet we leave the third open. Motive. We have to shut down the teachings of hate, and silence the teachers. That's the motive.

76 posted on 08/12/2006 8:23:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: WoofDog123

Thanks. I remember telling the people that I worked with on 9/11/01, that the result of what we were all seeing would be one thing; The permanent loss of our liberty.

77 posted on 08/12/2006 9:30:49 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (
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To: AprilfromTexas
Yes, I think it was that one.

Their cover story was REALLY stupid --apparently they WERE musicians, but the performer with whom they alleged they would be performing (somebody who was prominent and who was also Arab but traveling legitimately in the US) was UNAWARE of their "co-gig".

And these dudes were all scary --not simply rocker-type scariness, but physically the type that would be able to take the head off an average person.

More like a hockey team than musicians.

Whenver someone tried (as an experiment) to cut into their very carefully arranged "bathroom ramba line", they freaked out --they REALLLLLY wanted to be fooling around in the bathroom in a verrrrrry specific order.

78 posted on 08/12/2006 2:29:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: zeugma
Are you the author Claire Wolfe?

Well, if you are she, she certainly wouldn't say so, so just let that one go.

I highly recommend her writing to you.

Let's say she, you, and I were more or less born at the hip.

79 posted on 08/12/2006 2:32:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Sunshine55
Thank you! That was an EXCELLENT link! That poor, patriotic couple...

Ever since I was a boy, I had this sense that my Fedgove was infallible --that it was noble.

It is among the best in the world, yes, but while it is now hugely bloated, it seems somehow weak, and towards it's own these days, sometimes downright MEAN.

It's a strange combination, but now I'm learning that's not so strange, after all.

80 posted on 08/12/2006 2:39:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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