Posted on 08/11/2006 7:54:17 AM PDT by Sopater
A Muslim group criticized President Bush for saying that America is "at war with Islamic fascists" after U.K. authorities arrested 24 British citizens of Pakistani origin in an attempt to bomb numerous flights to the U.S. Thursday. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said the president's "hot button" terminology puts the name of Islam and the Muslim community at risk.
Bush called the attempted terrorist attack "a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation."
Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR, believes Bush should not even mention Islam when referring to the would-be terrorists.
"We have to isolate these individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to be criminal," Awad said. "Muslims world wide know that for sure."
Middle East expert and Islamic history expert Daniel Pipes told Cybercast News Service that Awad's claim is a "debatable proposition."
"Islam is a political religion in a way that none other is," said Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum and author of "Militant Islam Reaches America." "There are many elements within the religion and the history of Islam that suggest there is a dynamic of conquest.
"There is something inherently expansionist about Islam," Pipes continued. "Jihad is expansionist warfare."
Pipes praised Bush specifically for his use of the phrase "Islamic fascists."
"For the president to articulate who the enemy is so clearly and unambiguously is a huge step forward," Pipes said. "You cannot diagnose and treat a disease without first identifying and naming it. So, a strategist cannot defeat an enemy without first identifying it and naming it."
Muslims should not be disturbed by the term "Islamic fascists," Pipes argued, because Bush is "identifying not Islam the religion, but a radical form of Islam."
"Those groups that are protesting tend to support that form of Islam," Pipes contended. He believes most Muslims have no problem with the phrase because they understand it to refer to an extreme form of Islam separate from their beliefs.
In addition to limiting the president's comments, CAIR wants the U.S. media to disassociate Islam with terrorists "to make sure we don't start a religious war against Islam and Muslims." The group says American reporters should adopt the policies of the British media when identifying suspected terrorists.
Most British media will not identify terrorists as "Muslim," "Islamic" or "Islamists" even when physical evidence shows they were motivated by beliefs based on Islamic teachings or writings.
Parvez Ahmed, chairman of the CAIR board, also anticipates a negative backlash against the Muslim community.
"We also urge local law enforcement agencies to coordinate with Muslim leaders to deter hate crimes," Ahmed said. "It is also important that our fellow Americans understand that Muslims are law-abiding citizens who should not be targeted or singled out because of their faith or national origin."
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I read a statement released yesterday about the support of Muslim Americans torward the war on terror; I believe it was offically from CAIR.
I couldn't help but think that there was a "but" coming.
The religion of peace on Christians...
Quran 5:17 Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.
Quran 5:51 Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.
Quran 5:72 They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary. But the Messiah only said: O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.
Quran 9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low. [Another translation says:] pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.
Quran 5:35 Believers, fear Allah and seek the way to approach Him, striving hard, fighting Jihad with all your might in His Cause that you may be successful. As for the disbelievers [previously defined as Christians], if they had everything on earth, two times over, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Doom, it would never be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful torment. They will desire to get out of the fire, but they shall not be released from it. They shall have an everlasting torture.
Quran 74:31 We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the People of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease.
If the jackboot fits.
He should have useed the term "Fascist Muslims", instead.
what else don't they like to be called?....;)
My Give a $hit Meter is pegged at 0.
BIG BUMP!
Christian Group upset by Bin Laden use of "Infidels".
Oops...how racially and socially insensitive of me. Let me pull my post...(sarc/off)
News Flash,
beheading people upsets me.
sending rockets on innocent people upsets me.
seeing 3000 Americans die upsets me.
having to tolerate a mosque in my town upsets me.
So why should I give a rats rear end what some sand-maggot in a suit is upset about.
How 'bout..."Islamo-Asswipes"?
Religion Of Peace just did not pan out, even with the media hype about all of the peaceful good deeds performed by these islamic fascists.
TOUGH! It is about time, I am sick of catering to everyone who is offended by truth.
The only ones that would be upset by this comment are the Islamic Fascists. I guess they will out themselves now by crying too loudly.
"We have to isolate these individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to be criminal," Awad said."
What about all those writings in the koran about killing jews and christians. How its ok to take slaves. How its ok to rape the women of who you declare is your enemy.
I like the description "IslamoNazis" better
I like the description "IslamoNazis" better
I consider Islam to be a juvenile, despicable religion. A religion that allows the abuse of women, permits the murder of their children (honor killing) and calls for the death of those who do not follow it...can not be considered a great religion. My 16 year old son's idea of heaven would probly be lots of girls that he could know in the bibilical sense...some religion (sarcasm).
Islamofascists are not misinerpreting the Koran. The words that excuse their actions are there. Saudi Arabia is a perfect example. This moderate nation allowed 12 of its daughters to die in a fire rather that come outsid withoud their head scarfs. Christianity is forbidden and punishable by death. God deliver me from Islam-moderate or otherwise; it is evil
Sand-Nazis works for me.
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