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Muslim Group Upset by Bush's Use of 'Islamic Fascists'
Cybercast News Service ^ | August 11, 2006 | Alison Espach

Posted on 08/11/2006 7:54:17 AM PDT by Sopater

A Muslim group criticized President Bush for saying that America is "at war with Islamic fascists" after U.K. authorities arrested 24 British citizens of Pakistani origin in an attempt to bomb numerous flights to the U.S. Thursday. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said the president's "hot button" terminology puts the name of Islam and the Muslim community at risk.

Bush called the attempted terrorist attack "a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation."

Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR, believes Bush should not even mention Islam when referring to the would-be terrorists.

"We have to isolate these individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to be criminal," Awad said. "Muslims world wide know that for sure."

Middle East expert and Islamic history expert Daniel Pipes told Cybercast News Service that Awad's claim is a "debatable proposition."

"Islam is a political religion in a way that none other is," said Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum and author of "Militant Islam Reaches America." "There are many elements within the religion and the history of Islam that suggest there is a dynamic of conquest.

"There is something inherently expansionist about Islam," Pipes continued. "Jihad is expansionist warfare."

Pipes praised Bush specifically for his use of the phrase "Islamic fascists."

"For the president to articulate who the enemy is so clearly and unambiguously is a huge step forward," Pipes said. "You cannot diagnose and treat a disease without first identifying and naming it. So, a strategist cannot defeat an enemy without first identifying it and naming it."

Muslims should not be disturbed by the term "Islamic fascists," Pipes argued, because Bush is "identifying not Islam the religion, but a radical form of Islam."

"Those groups that are protesting tend to support that form of Islam," Pipes contended. He believes most Muslims have no problem with the phrase because they understand it to refer to an extreme form of Islam separate from their beliefs.

In addition to limiting the president's comments, CAIR wants the U.S. media to disassociate Islam with terrorists "to make sure we don't start a religious war against Islam and Muslims." The group says American reporters should adopt the policies of the British media when identifying suspected terrorists.

Most British media will not identify terrorists as "Muslim," "Islamic" or "Islamists" even when physical evidence shows they were motivated by beliefs based on Islamic teachings or writings.

Parvez Ahmed, chairman of the CAIR board, also anticipates a negative backlash against the Muslim community.

"We also urge local law enforcement agencies to coordinate with Muslim leaders to deter hate crimes," Ahmed said. "It is also important that our fellow Americans understand that Muslims are law-abiding citizens who should not be targeted or singled out because of their faith or national origin."

All original CNSNews.com material, copyright 1998-2006 Cybercast News Service.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; crushcair; crushislam; fascism; islam; islamicfascists; islamicnazis; islamisevil; islamofascism; islamonaziism; muslim; muslims; rop; terror; thetruthreallyhurts; trop
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Sounds like their mad at the wrong person. Maybe they should be mad at the 'Islamic Fascists' that are trying so hard to kill everyone.
1 posted on 08/11/2006 7:54:17 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Not one tear for 9/11 from these people.


2 posted on 08/11/2006 7:56:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Sopater

Awwww... BFD


3 posted on 08/11/2006 7:56:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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It strikes me that this ridiculous group could have been even more effective, from a propaganda standpoint, if they had said, "President Bush is right; there are fascists among our co-religionists and we must work with the West to root them out." Instead, their defense will only create a greater backlash against Islam.


4 posted on 08/11/2006 7:57:07 AM PDT by farmer18th
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This guy from "CAIR" is just mad that he can't carry his Gatorade with the special liquid C4 compartment on board anymore.


5 posted on 08/11/2006 7:57:38 AM PDT by nhoward14
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Too bad, so sad.

Yes, not ALL Muslims are Islamofascist terrorists, but EVERY al Qaeda terrorist have turned out to be MUSLIMS!

In other words,

PBUT (Pork Be Upon Them)


6 posted on 08/11/2006 7:57:38 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Sopater

They prefer the term "Islamic Neerdowells"


7 posted on 08/11/2006 7:59:34 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR, believes Bush should not even mention Islam when referring to the would-be terrorists.

It's the terrorists that should not mention Islam when referring to what they do then.
8 posted on 08/11/2006 7:59:50 AM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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We're more upset that the Islamo-facists are trying to savagely kill the infidels.

Doesn't seem to bother CAIR.


9 posted on 08/11/2006 8:01:23 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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CAIR should be closed down and investigated.


10 posted on 08/11/2006 8:02:29 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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I'm upset too - they're ISLAMOCOMMIES.


11 posted on 08/11/2006 8:02:48 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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12 posted on 08/11/2006 8:02:52 AM PDT by NYleatherneck (It ain't a World War until the French surrender.)
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"Instead, their defense will only create a greater backlash against Islam."

Good! That is what is needed. islam is at war with us. The muslims are conducting a holy war against the West. Whether we choose to participate or not will determine whether we survive or not.


13 posted on 08/11/2006 8:03:46 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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"For the president to articulate who the enemy is so clearly and unambiguously is a huge step forward,"

Yes, it's way overdue. We are at war with dangerous splinter groups who use the Muslim religion as a justification for murdering us and disrupting our society. Islamic fascists is a proper term for them and a better label than "war on terror." Terror is what they do, Islamic fascists is who they are.


14 posted on 08/11/2006 8:04:49 AM PDT by RicocheT
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It's the terrorists that should not mention Islam when referring to what they do then.

Excellent point. Why don't we hear outrage from CAIR whenever that happens?

15 posted on 08/11/2006 8:04:50 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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CAIR should be closed down and investigated.

Let them stay here, and put a permanent wiretap on all of their communications.

16 posted on 08/11/2006 8:06:42 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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Perhaps they are just "disaffected youths", ya reckon? They need to burn some more Renaults, if there are any left...


17 posted on 08/11/2006 8:07:22 AM PDT by brushcop (Lt. Harris, SFC Salie, CPL Long, SPC Hornbeck, B-Co, 2/69 3ID We will remember you always.)
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Hey, cut CAIR a break, their statement yesterday condemning the potential attack was four whole sentences, they came just before the eight sentences of hand-wringing about backlash.


18 posted on 08/11/2006 8:09:10 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Sopater

CAIR, Grover Norquist and the rest of the Islamo-apologists can get bent. Allahu FUBAR!


19 posted on 08/11/2006 8:10:05 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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Go home and stone your sisters, you'll feel better.


20 posted on 08/11/2006 8:10:58 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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