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8/11 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8.11.06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Love is a Battlefield

IDF soldier received heart shaped cookie somewhere near the Lebanon border...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; unres1701; waronmilitantislam
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To: Lizarde
As I see it there is no UN agreement of any sort that has ever solved a problem so why do we have to go through this endless song and dance....

Funny that I should read your post just as I was sort of laughing to myself about all of the hysteria over the UN and its useless "resolutions." All a resolution would do is tie Israel's hands, which is the point of the whole thing. Those who can actually bring about peace are currently massed on the border of Lebanon...wearing uniforms.

901 posted on 08/11/2006 11:07:46 AM PDT by Bahbah (Yalla ya, Nasrallah, we'll send you off to Allah.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

There have been various reports for a week that the syrians have been moving assets forward, ESPECIALLY Anti-Aircraft.


902 posted on 08/11/2006 11:07:59 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: AliVeritas

Did you hear Mike Wallace on Sean's show yesterday?


903 posted on 08/11/2006 11:08:00 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: All

Ok. I'm speechless... On, off, on-ish..halt..move, go back, let her rip..negotiate...talk, strongly urge, launch rockets, drop bombs, talk........


904 posted on 08/11/2006 11:08:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: Timeout

That might be the purpose of the deal...to work out a way to get the lebanese govt. separating itself from Hez...


905 posted on 08/11/2006 11:08:19 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters
Ha'aretz!

Olmert cannot remain in the prime minister's office

By Ari Shavit

Ehud Olmert may decide to accept the French proposal for a cease-fire and unconditional surrender to Hezbollah. That is his privilege. Olmert is a prime minister whom journalists invented, journalists protected, and whose rule journalists preserved. Now the journalists are saying run away. That's legitimate. Unwise, but legitimate.

However, one thing should be clear: If Olmert runs away now from the war he initiated, he will not be able to remain prime minister for even one more day. Chutzpah has its limits. You cannot lead an entire nation to war promising victory, produce humiliating defeat and remain in power. You cannot bury 120 Israelis in cemeteries, keep a million Israelis in shelters for a month, wear down deterrent power, bring the next war very close, and then say - oops, I made a mistake. That was not the intention. Pass me a cigar, please.

There is no mistake Ehud Olmert did not make this past month. He went to war hastily, without properly gauging the outcome. He blindly followed the military without asking the necessary questions. He mistakenly gambled on air operations, was strangely late with the ground operation, and failed to implement the army's original plan, much more daring and sophisticated than that which was implemented. And after arrogantly and hastily bursting into war, Olmert managed it hesitantly, unfocused and limp. He neglected the home front and abandoned the residents of the north. He also failed shamefully on the diplomatic front.

Still, if Olmert had come to his senses as Golda Meir did during the Yom Kippur War, if he had become a leader, established a war cabinet and called the nation to a supreme effort that would change the face of the battle, a penetrating discussion of his failures could be postponed. But in blinking first over the past 24 hours, he has become an incorrigible political personality. Therefore, the day Nasrallah comes out of his bunker and declares victory to the whole world, Olmert must not be in the prime minister's office. Post-war battered and bleeding Israel needs a new start and a new leader. It needs a real prime minister.

906 posted on 08/11/2006 11:08:37 AM PDT by sofaman (To Kofi Annan, and his fellow Jew-haters, "Never again!")
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To: Eurotwit; sofaman; SE Mom; Timeout

Israel says to call off offensive if goals at U.N. met
Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:16 PM IST

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel said on Friday it would call off its expanded ground offensive in Lebanon if a U.N. resolution meets the government's goals.

"If in a couple of hours such a resolution, which really is going to meet the goals as was spelled out by the Israeli cabinet, the operation will be stopped," Gideon Meir, a senior Foreign Ministry official, told reporters. "We hope the diplomacy will prevail."

Meir said he would not discuss Israel's concerns about the existing resolution, but said negotiations were ongoing. "We are working on two tracks," he said.

Meir said Israel did not announce its decision to expand the ground offensive in order to ratchet up pressure on the U.N., calling that "a ridiculous" suggestion.

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-08-11T230756Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-263297-1.xml


907 posted on 08/11/2006 11:08:40 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Txsleuth

We can each hold one bomb on our lap as we fly over????

lol
Pinz


908 posted on 08/11/2006 11:09:07 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Txsleuth

That was disgusting.


909 posted on 08/11/2006 11:09:16 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Yalla yalla yalla, send you back to allah, screw you inshallah, along with hezballah.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

cool! I'm going to be on my way home...Dallas to Denver, Denver San Diego..I'll miss the show


910 posted on 08/11/2006 11:09:36 AM PDT by sofaman (To Kofi Annan, and his fellow Jew-haters, "Never again!")
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To: silentknight
Someone should pass your advice onto the talking heads at the front.

Makes me long for a white Bronco chase.

911 posted on 08/11/2006 11:09:39 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

For 24 hrs. we've been led to believe that Israel was about ready to throw in the towel and settle for nonsense. Now we hear Olmert has launched the ground war (IDF confirmed order has been given). There is no ch. 7 resolution that would stop Hez. from taking over Lebanon and establishing a new "Iranian" state. The MSM did not sense Olmert's decision to launch the ground war coming, so I'm now skeptical every time I hear Haaretz, etc splashing the UN line. Haaretz has tipped me away from believing any UN resolution will solve this problem!


912 posted on 08/11/2006 11:10:36 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Timeout
I have no doubt, no doubt whatsoever, that the entire diplomatic kabukki dance has been a ruse. Maybe Israel needed more time for something. Maybe Bush felt like he and Tony needed the cover of TRYING the U.N. route. Or maybe the delay had something to do with yesterday's bomb plot. But I am certain that unleashing Israel on the Hezbos was the end game all along. (the only question is whether France was in on it or did they get duped by Bolton/Bush/Blair/Rice?)

I'm not quite to the "no doubt" point, but I'm leaning in the above direction. Note Jeffer's post the other day in which he was discussing how long it would take to get a good sized offensive going, and someone also mentioned "darkening the theater". I know I was thinking that the "delay" might well be meaningless in terms of it's military significance. (Were the troops still moving inside Israel?)

BTW, somebody should send that pic at the beginning of the thread to Pat Benatar!

Ok, so much for my spare time at lunch -- have almost caught up with this thread...

913 posted on 08/11/2006 11:10:41 AM PDT by Paul R. ("Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggie" until you can find a rock" - Will Rogers)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Yep.


914 posted on 08/11/2006 11:11:22 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: Timeout

the Lebanese army would take 2 weeks to find their tochus with a map AND a flashlight. The Hezbos would decimate them. They will now reap what the whirlwind...


915 posted on 08/11/2006 11:11:24 AM PDT by sofaman (To Kofi Annan, and his fellow Jew-haters, "Never again!")
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To: Timeout

LOL


916 posted on 08/11/2006 11:11:51 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: sofaman

It's not like the rockets are going to stop falling, cease-fire or no. They will not stop rocketing until someone makes them, even if they pinky promise to.


917 posted on 08/11/2006 11:12:04 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Yalla yalla yalla, send you back to allah, screw you inshallah, along with hezballah.)
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To: All

Re: post 815

I called the W.H. # & expressed support for Pres. Bush and made 4 requests:

- please give full support to Israel & hang tough
- totally reject political correctness
- kick the UN out of the US
- put the supreme court justices back in their corners

sorry but I didn't have time to add: throw CAIR & the ACLU in prison


918 posted on 08/11/2006 11:12:57 AM PDT by 99Floyd
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To: ichabod1

exactly correct...


920 posted on 08/11/2006 11:13:19 AM PDT by sofaman (To Kofi Annan, and his fellow Jew-haters, "Never again!")
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