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8/11 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8.11.06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Love is a Battlefield

IDF soldier received heart shaped cookie somewhere near the Lebanon border...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; unres1701; waronmilitantislam
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To: AliVeritas

Shep to Col. Hunt: Every time we try to predict what will happen we look stupid.

ROFLMAO!!!


1,661 posted on 08/11/2006 2:49:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Republican Red

Another interesting post at NRO:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

A Quick Parsing of the Resolution [John Podhoretz]

It's not a disaster, for this reason: The language of Paragraph 10, point 1, reads "Calls for a full cessation of hostilities based upon, in particular, the immediate cessation by Hizbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations." This is not parallel language. Hezbollah must cease all attacks. Israel must only cease "offensive military operations." Since Israel itself defines its own action in South Lebanon as by definition defensive, not offensive, there's a lot of give here. Besides which, will Hezbollah really cease "all attacks"?


1,662 posted on 08/11/2006 2:49:35 PM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore, even if they don't know it)
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To: Txsleuth

I'll say right now the U.S. has done everything possible for Israel (in the current situation) and we still are. As for whether Israel could have done more ... yes. Will they do more...? Why not.

Now, I wonder if Israel still has civilians in bomb shelters in the north or whether they have relocated all further south...


1,663 posted on 08/11/2006 2:49:44 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: Anomaly in Illinois

Anomaly in Illinois
wrote:
Okay guys I must out myself from lurking for a moment.

We must remain calm and watch what they do and not what they say. Ten tanks moving back & forth for
Shep's hysterical benefit means nothing.

We are witnessing the biggest @%&$-Storm of dis-info I have ever seen.

A wise freeper on these threads earlier quoted I believe Churchill 'In war truth is so precious it must be
accompanied by a bodyguard of lies.'

My spidey senses tell me we are witness to an amazing display meant to keep everyone guessing and off
balance.

Sit back and learn from the grown-ups in this administration how to use the traitorous media to your
advantage and play UN diplomats like pros.

(on the other hand I may be an eternal optimist who would never want to admit defeat, heh)





Hear, hear.

Actions speak louder than words.


1,664 posted on 08/11/2006 2:50:16 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Saddle up, boys!!


1,665 posted on 08/11/2006 2:50:23 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: jeffers

The IDF use of the MLRS with cluster munitions would imply that some things were in the open, would it not?

Is it possible the rats are leaving the ship?

An earlier thread noted that the hezbos were short of food and water.

It ain't over till its over.


1,666 posted on 08/11/2006 2:50:27 PM PDT by Bob from De
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To: Dog

Under these rules of engagement, yes. Will they? That's a different question.


1,667 posted on 08/11/2006 2:50:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SoCalPol

and BTW Mark Levin is also a FReeper


1,668 posted on 08/11/2006 2:51:04 PM PDT by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: flaglady47

Israel will not keep its reserves on standby for a long time..not the way it works..they are too important as civilains(at least that is what i heard)


1,669 posted on 08/11/2006 2:51:04 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: flaglady47

Bravo! Exactly right!


1,670 posted on 08/11/2006 2:51:24 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Republican Red
Sounds to me that Bush is angry at the Isaeli's for botching the war. He got them all the time they needed and they tried to run a PC war.

This would be my educated guess, too. And, it makes sense.

1,671 posted on 08/11/2006 2:51:32 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Gvl_M3

"I wonder if this UN resolution will allow us to position our troops in Lebanon (under the UN banner). Then, when the hezbos attack again, we can help Israel clean up."

Not going to happen. Condi just said so about 2 minutes ago on CNN interview w/Wolf Blitzer.


1,672 posted on 08/11/2006 2:51:35 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Loyal Buckeye

As recent events have shown, that is not possible. We are not allowed to fight back, but must beg for quick, quiet deaths.

I am pretty sickened right now.


1,673 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:03 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

I can't disagree with your disappointment, because I share it completely as well. But trust me when I say that this is the exact charge that our enemy will use against our soldiers if they feel they have us by the horns. I hope I didn't sound too strong responding to what you wrote, and if I did, please forgive me. I just prefer to make sure those families hold tight to an honorable sacrifice in their grief, and that the enemy does not think they've had the last laugh.


1,674 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:04 PM PDT by hegemony
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To: 99Floyd

Do you know why the US military is the greatest the world has ever seen?

Because of who we've fought against...Starting with the world's greatest syuperpower of the time Great Britain, wanna talk asymetrical warfare...the Idian wars, then the worst best enemy we ever had..each other,,the civil war...it goes on..The Wehrmacht, Imperial Japan, The North koreans, The NVA, The Jihadis in Falluja....tough enemies make a tough military


1,675 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:19 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: Dog

But they never were planning to take a bite out of Syria, unless Syria forced the issue. And Syria prefers Israel as the boogie man than as something to bash one's head against.


1,676 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:19 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Republican Red

Interesting...good find.


1,677 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:27 PM PDT by letsgonova19087
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To: La Enchiladita

36 GOLDEN hours for a guy named MOSHE,,,LOL .


1,678 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:45 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Jrabbit; Dog
IDF: It'll take week to reach Litani

According to timetable IDF presented to cabinet, it would take troops additional 4-6 weeks to defeat Hizbullah terrorists after reaching Litani Hanan Greenberg

One month after the outbreak of the war in Lebanon, during which the Israeli army has established a security zone along the border and reached a depth of 12 kilometers into Lebanese territory, the IDF got a 'green light' Friday night to continue north up to the Litani River.

The order was given against the backdrop of a fervor of international diplomatic talks hoping to reach a ceasefire agreement as soon as Friday night.

The aim of the operation is to distance Hizbullah terror cells, especially those responsible for rocket attacks on Israeli, as far north as possible, thus widening the buffer zone along the border. IDF officials assessed this week that the completion of such a mission could take two months.

The IDF presented the cabinet with a timetable for its operations in the field, by which the operation would take a minimum of one week to reach the Litani River. Another four to six weeks would be required to defeat the Hizbullah operatives in the field.

It was still unclear whether the green light was time-limited and aimed pressuring Lebanon and Hizbullah into giving in to Israel's demands as part of a ceasefire agreement.

Another 15 km to Litani

At these very moments thousands of IDF soldiers, both the standing army and reservists, are operating in Lebanon against Hizbullah infrastructure. In the eastern sector of the border, soldiers are 1.5 km from the Litani and are overlooking it, although in the west troops remain roughly 15 km from the river. With that, in recent days forces began preparing the ground for the expansion of the operation and created access routes by which troops could advance deeper into the territory.

Officials in the Northern Command explained that there remained terrorist strongholds in the area south of the Litani that were firing rockets at Israel. "Any movement forward, even if it doesn't reach the Litani, will distance the rocket launchers (from the border)," a senior officer explained.

The shorter range 122-mm diameter rockets, that can reach some 24 km (about 15 miles), are the central threat against which the IDF is fighting. As forces push the terror cells further northward, the rockets will become less effective as they will become out of range of Israeli territory.

Another significance of expanding the operation would be the deployment of a great deal of forces into southern Lebanon. The IDF assessed that thousands of terrorists were still in south Lebanon – possibly up to 3,000 or even more, and the IDF could pay a heavy price in defeating them.

1,679 posted on 08/11/2006 2:52:54 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Gvl_M3
No US troops in Lebanon. None.

That would endanger Israel, Lebanese civilians, and US soldiers for nothing.
1,680 posted on 08/11/2006 2:53:32 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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