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Reuters Doctoring Photos from Beirut? [photo inside]
Little Green Footballs ^ | 8-5-2006

Posted on 08/05/2006 3:52:31 PM PDT by Hadean

OK, now things are getting weird.

This Reuters photograph shows blatant evidence of manipulation. Notice the repeating patterns in the smoke; this is almost certainly caused by using the Photoshop “clone” tool to add more smoke to the image. (Hat tip: Mike.)

It’s so incredibly obvious, it reminds me of the faked CBS memos. Smoke simply does not contain repeating symmetrical patterns like this, and you can see the repetition in both plumes of smoke. There’s really no question about it.

Smoke billows from burning buildings destroyed during an overnight Israeli air raid on Beirut’s suburbs August 5, 2006. Many buildings were flattened during the attack. REUTERS/Adnan Hajj


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; adnanhajj; alreuters; beirut; enemedia; fakeisnotaccurate; fakephotos; fauxtography; lgf; nuketheleft; pajamahadeen; photoshopfordummies; reuters
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To: jwalburg

There is very blue sky in the smoke and at the top of the building it seems different.

Also, I think the smoke was rotated 90 degrees clockwise.


161 posted on 08/05/2006 6:06:30 PM PDT by be4everfree
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To: photodawg

Are they (Reuters) also guilty of the same logic used by Dan Rather? It's OK if it's not real, it's "fake but accurate."


162 posted on 08/05/2006 6:06:35 PM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: Congressman Billybob
"I may have been the first person to use the phrase "lamestream media," here on FR about three years ago."

To: wife-mom

I wish the lamestream media would report the important fact that only 1 % of violent crime results in a jail sentance and look into the fact that criminals are walking around all over the place. Maybe it is high time we out all the criminals who got off on a technicality or even worse were never arrested. I believe that figure is only about 7 %!!!!

12 Posted on 01/17/2000 07:47:26 PST by alisasny
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163 posted on 08/05/2006 6:07:17 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Hadean
Thanks. I definitely see at least two of the same building...But is there even a third?


164 posted on 08/05/2006 6:07:42 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: be4everfree

Haven't you heard? The latest release of Photoshop includes a smoke tool.


165 posted on 08/05/2006 6:08:09 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Sam Hill

Hey, there. Could ya do a lookup to see who it was that coined, "Enemedia," first on FR?


166 posted on 08/05/2006 6:08:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Look at these. They may help you.


167 posted on 08/05/2006 6:08:51 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Just pointing out the total idiocy of your point. Many UFO pictures have been disproven without the original. You suggested the original was needed to disprove the authenticity of a photo. Can you admit you were wrong yet? Or are you as illogical as you are blind? You can't see the identical smoke patterns? Time to get glasses!


168 posted on 08/05/2006 6:10:05 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: Hadean

I can think of one reason to doctor the pic--to make it look as though the bombing was in a more densely populated area and caused more damage than it did.


169 posted on 08/05/2006 6:10:50 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: chilepepper
what may happen starting from *NOW* is that the pajamahadin and the blogs may shame reuters for doing it, reverse the effect, and continue to undermine the credibility - but in most of the US and the rest of the world, the damage is already done, and reuters will continue to feed mush to the sheeple, who will continue to lap it up...


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I disagree. In the face of the recent accusations that photos from the building collapse killing 57 women and children were staged , the AP and Reuters denied vociferously that they would ever alter an existing news event and took umbrage at the accusation. This photo is absolute proof that this media outlet knowingly and willingly doctors the news in favor of known terrorists. This picture will not go away and will cast aspersions on the coverage of the entire war on terror. They will not be able to refute this evidence. Also, I would venture to bet that we will find many more examples of this type of deception.
170 posted on 08/05/2006 6:12:23 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Fresh Wind
Haven't you heard? The latest release of Photoshop includes a smoke tool

I heard that the upcoming release will have mangled body parts that you can dress.
171 posted on 08/05/2006 6:13:22 PM PDT by be4everfree
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To: Nick Danger

LOL


172 posted on 08/05/2006 6:13:35 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Continental Soldier

Reuters is an Arab owned news service, no?



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English.......same thing!


173 posted on 08/05/2006 6:13:36 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: right-wingin_It

The shadows on the ground may be key here, too - someone with some photo-analysis experience could probably tell the basic shape of the original plume based on the shadow that they apparently didn't bother to doctor.


174 posted on 08/05/2006 6:13:40 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: TruthWillWin
Are they (Reuters) also guilty of the same logic used by Dan Rather? It's OK if it's not real, it's "fake but accurate."

It would seem so. Just checkout the responses the EU Referendum folks have been getting about the Qana expose

http://www.eureferendum.blogspot.com/

…is the child dead? was the child killed by Israeli bombs? If so, the picture illustrates the story. If the picture does not alter the truth of the story, we're not being disingenuous. And the truth of the story is this: Israeli bombs killed several civilians in Qana, many of whom were children.

In other words,

fake but accurate.


175 posted on 08/05/2006 6:14:03 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: be4everfree

That would be the Jihadi Special Edition.


176 posted on 08/05/2006 6:14:23 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: photodawg

I hope you are right. Don't think it will happen however. Never underestimate the MSM's ability to deny the obvious.


177 posted on 08/05/2006 6:15:10 PM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: mvpel
You may be seeing JPEG compression artifacts in the first picture - the second photo may have been scanned with less aggressive compression algorithm settings.

Not likely, the distortions are consistent with what I have to clean up when I modify jpgs and bitmaps. When I first started modifing pics I used MSpaint and worked pixel by pixel one at a time until I got the desired result.

179 posted on 08/05/2006 6:16:14 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: AmericaUnited

Not that symmetrical. Each plume of smoke wouldn't be from an identical fuel type and volume as in a cigarette. Even if the wind was perfectly constant (a near impossibility) the plumes would be different.


180 posted on 08/05/2006 6:17:35 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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