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Israel's vaunted tanks are succumbing to Hezbollah's powerful missiles
AP ^ | Aug. 4, 2006 | Benjamin Harvey

Posted on 08/05/2006 3:28:44 AM PDT by robert jones

JERUSALEM – Hezbollah's sophisticated anti-tank missiles are perhaps the guerrilla group's deadliest weapon in Lebanon fighting, with their ability to pierce Israel's most advanced tanks.

Experts say this is further evidence that Israel is facing a well-equipped army in this war, not a ragtag militia.

Hezbollah has fired Russian-made Metis-M anti-tank missiles and owns European-made Milan missiles, the army confirmed on Friday.

In the last two days alone, these missiles have killed seven soldiers and damaged three Israeli-made Merkava tanks – mountains of steel that are vaunted as symbols of Israel's military might, the army said. Israeli media say most of the 44 soldiers killed in four weeks of fighting were hit by anti-tank missiles.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; israel; merkava; tank
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Are tanks headed for the martial evolutionary grinder?
1 posted on 08/05/2006 3:28:44 AM PDT by robert jones
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Bullshit.


3 posted on 08/05/2006 3:34:02 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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O.K...So withdraw the tanks and nuke 'em till they glow...


4 posted on 08/05/2006 3:35:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Glenn

Thanks for your pithy and well thought out reply.


5 posted on 08/05/2006 3:35:50 AM PDT by robert jones
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To: robert jones
Thanks for your pithy and well thought out reply.

Welcome.

6 posted on 08/05/2006 3:37:25 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: robert jones

No tank is invulnerable for long. With every advance in armor an advance in anti-armor weapons is close behind. This has been going on from day one of human warfare and will undoubtedly continue until the end.


7 posted on 08/05/2006 3:37:33 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: robert jones

I think robots and UAVs are the future of warfare. As weapons have become increasingly powerful it's very difficult now to make attacks on manned vehicles survivable for the crew. Send in the UAVs and bots.


8 posted on 08/05/2006 3:41:19 AM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)
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***Experts say this is further evidence that Israel is facing a well-equipped army in this war, not a ragtag militia**

You dont have to be an expert to know that this is evidence that they are well supplied by another country whi is really behind terrorists. Hezballah hasnt bought these weapons legitimately, they arent a country, they are supplied by forces behind the scenes who encourage them in their terrorist ways. The fighting wont stop by killing Hezballah , but by taking the war to whomsoever is the supplier of the weapons.


9 posted on 08/05/2006 3:43:24 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: robert jones

armor unsupported by infantry cannot work effectively against dug in infantry with anti-tank capability-the Israelis had a similar problem in the '73 war at one point-I believe it was against the Syrians,but I'm not sure -it's been awhile since I read about the incident


10 posted on 08/05/2006 3:44:15 AM PDT by steamroller
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No tank is invulnerable for long. With every advance in armor an advance in anti-armor weapons is close behind. This has been going on from day one of human warfare and will undoubtedly continue until the end.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Battleships have all but disappeared. Perhaps nanoengineered armor will maintain the dominance of the tank.

11 posted on 08/05/2006 3:44:52 AM PDT by robert jones
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To: steamroller

exactly; today armor and infantry need to be coordinated and ideally also with close air support. That's the Israelis advantage. The superior anti-armor munitions are a surprise which call for adjustments to air support and infantry tactics, but the next chess move will be Iranian provided SAMs deployed by Hez.

Roll On My IDF Brothers!


12 posted on 08/05/2006 3:48:39 AM PDT by LucidListless
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To: sgtbono2002
Actually this is quite an interesting strategy on the behalf of Iran. First they are sending fighters over the border of Iraq to stir things up and then they get Hezbollah to stir the pot too on a different 'front.'

They are running out of plausible deniability.
13 posted on 08/05/2006 3:48:50 AM PDT by EBH (Islam: A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.)
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To: robert jones
More "Israel is losing" propaganda - especially the headline. If Israel were losing there would be no calls for cease fire from the UN. As the article points out, anti-tank weapons are just additional evidence that Israel is fighting more than just the Hezzies. The sooner this is out in the open, the better for the world at large.
14 posted on 08/05/2006 3:52:39 AM PDT by rhombus
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remember to write Hex-Ebola at mediarelations123@yahoo.com


15 posted on 08/05/2006 3:53:17 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: rhombus

I was puzzled by the propagandistic sounding title. Apparently, the intermediate source was responsible for the change from the original more neutral sounding AP title.


16 posted on 08/05/2006 3:57:47 AM PDT by robert jones
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More hopeful news from the hezbollah spin machine at AP...

Yallah Ya Nasrallah- watch out or the Israelis will fire up Moshe Dayan's tank at Degania and wipe out your armies again


18 posted on 08/05/2006 4:02:03 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: sgtbono2002

"Hezballah hasnt bought these weapons legitimately"

Very true, the old end user certificate hat trick. Israel had problems with saggers as well back in '82.


19 posted on 08/05/2006 4:02:39 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (Loose lips sink ships and the NYT is the Bermuda triangle.)
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To: silverleaf
Arab Propaganda

write Hez-Ebola at mediarelations123@yahoo.com

20 posted on 08/05/2006 4:03:40 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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