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CSIS spy networks in mosques not meant to target Islam, experts say
Canadian Press via National Post ^ | Michelle McQuigge

Posted on 08/01/2006 5:48:07 AM PDT by Clive

TORONTO -- The Canadian Security Intelligence Service practice of paying informants to gather intelligence from specific religious communities in Canada is a perfectly acceptable tactic that has been misunderstood and misrepresented, security experts say.

Places of worship are only investigated if suspicious individuals are known to frequent them, former employees of the spy agency and the RCMP said Monday in response to media reports that said CSIS has infiltrated virtually every mosque in Toronto.

“It’s absolutely, absolutely untrue that there’s a spy in every mosque,” said Chris Mathers, a crime and risk consultant and former RCMP officer.

“The RCMP and CSIS do not . . .target religious groups, they target individuals, because it’s against the law.”

CSIS will only infiltrate particular locations if they seem to be likely breeding grounds for extremist activity, Mathers said.

If a person was under suspicion and attended a specific place of worship, measures would be taken to investigate the goings-on within that building as well as any other places the suspect spent considerable time, he added.

A religious building is subject to the same laws governing any other Canadian institution, said David Harris, a former chief of strategic planning for the agency.

“It’s important for us to note that there is no immunity that any community or facility enjoys from CSIS’s obligation to us all to assess possible threats to the security of Canada,” Harris said.

Other religious groups have been the focus of past investigations and denied alligations that Muslims are being unfairly persecuted through current practices, he added.

Harris cited the investigation of fundamentalist Christian groups in the early 1990s, where intelligence agents all over North America infiltrated churches that were suspected of being hotbeds for terrorist recruitment.

Recent reports of Muslim spy networks have distorted the way Canadians perceive CSIS and its activities, Mathers said.

“It’s very important that the people of Canada understand this — not only the Muslim community, but everybody else,” Mathers said.

“This is not a Muslim issue. This is an extremist issue. Muslim does not equal extremist.”

Few in the Muslim community seemed surprised by reports that CSIS moles could be in their midst at various mosques in and around Toronto.

Tarek Fatah, spokesman for the Muslim Canadian Congress, said he would have been shocked if CSIS had not devised a method of monitoring activities inside certain mosques.

Fatah said he supports initiatives to maintain law and order, although he remains concerned the current strategy will cause more problems than it solves.

“My fear is that CSIS informers are espousing extremist rhetoric to draw out people with extremist views, but in doing so are contaminating the minds of many people in the congregation or who associate with them,” he said.

”In some ways, we’re playing with fire.”

Fatah said he is fundamentally opposed to combining religion and politics and suggested CSIS should hire full-time agents dedicated solely to keeping track of activities in the Muslim community.

Harris said such a plan would not be realistic, particularly in time-sensitive investigations.

“Frequently, you want people who are ensconced in whatever the organization or community of interest might be,” he said. “It can be unrealistic to expect ... that one can have the time and resources gradually to allow an intelligence officer into a closed shop.”

Other religious groups expressed strong support for the spy agency’s activities.

Manuel Prutschi, national executive vice-president for the Canadian Jewish Congress, said the methods of CSIS are all in a day’s work when it comes to protecting religious groups across Canada.

“We see CSIS as being a very valuable instrument in terms of protecting all Canadians from terrorist threats,” Prutschi said.

“We would expect and understand that CSIS tries to keep tabs as best it can on such possible threats.”


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihadincanada; muslims; terrorists

1 posted on 08/01/2006 5:48:08 AM PDT by Clive
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2 posted on 08/01/2006 5:50:55 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
It’s absolutely, absolutely untrue that there’s a spy in every mosque

They should be working to correct this oversight.

3 posted on 08/01/2006 5:51:06 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Clive

If they can infiltrate the Crips, The Bloods, MS13, etc. why not a mosque? Same type of people operate there.


4 posted on 08/01/2006 5:54:29 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (You! Shake your junk!)
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To: Clive

Since the terrorist headquarter out of the "holy" mosque and the moslims headquarter out the the mosque.........pretty much looks the same, at least to this Infidel.


5 posted on 08/01/2006 6:23:57 AM PDT by newcthem (This is the final crusade, there are only two sides: pick one.(Brought to you by the Infidel Party))
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To: Clive
I think this is a wonderful way for Canadians and muslims to foster better cross-cultural understanding. Muslims are always complaining that we don't really understand Islam, and watching the way they practice in their Canadian (and US) mosques is a wonderful way to learn about it.

There's nothing more revealing about a group as listening how they talk among themselves when they think no outsiders can hear them.

6 posted on 08/01/2006 6:34:13 AM PDT by Kenton
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