Was Qana Staged? (Banner of Sec. Rice had to be made well in advance)

NRO ^ | 7/31/2006 | Jonah Goldberg

[Uncledave]

Was Qana Staged? Cont'd [Jonah Goldberg]

A giant banner denouncing Rice and the "Qana massacre" might have been made a bit too quickly.

I don't want to get too far out ahead on this, but I know we've got a zillion printer-type folks among our readers. Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?

Update: From a reader:

"Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?"

Heck no. A designer could throw it together in probably 15 minutes or so, but the longest part would be the printing. Notice how deep the reds and blacks are - this means they didn't just bust it out. I wouldnt be surprised if that job itself (requiring special equipment, as it looks to be printed on canvas or nylon, not merely paper) took 6 hours simply to print.

Also, that puppy would be expensive.

Update II: From a reader:

Nope. Not possible in 2 hours to design, typeset, print, assemble and transport to the site. 24 hours if you're really good to do all the above. I say that as an career commercial artist of 18 years now.

Update III: From another reader:

called a close friend who has a very large printing company in NY with the question.  he called out to one of his technicians as to how long a color 30 foot banner would take to produce.  the response was that it would have to be done by a special machine and that machine would take "5 to 6 hours."     by the way, their rather enormous, state of the art (less than 6 months old) facility doesn't even have the equipment necessary to do it.  so make a guess as to what's available in a war-ravaged area...

 

[DustyMoment]

the lack of blood and dirt/rubble on all the alleged "victims" tells me all I need to know that it is a conjured PR event.

Plus the onset of rigor mortis. In an earlier post, a baby was shown several times and (sorry to be so graphic) he had clearly been dead for several hours. His body was already stiff in a peculiar position (no matter how they carried him), and the way the dust was layered on him indicated that he was dead and waiting when they dropped the building on top of him and the other cadavers.

[TASMANIANRED]

So it appears they knew the number of casualties in advance.

More evidence that the incident was staged.

Did they pull any survivors out?

You'd think a building with 50 people in it, at least a few would live..

[Cementjungle]

How does this news get to the media?

ROTFL!

[uncbob]

And everyone in the West (+ Israel) fell for it!!

Which is pathetic considering things have been staged in the past

[HitmanLV]

Say they had the poster ready and just added the letters by hand afterwards.

[KJC1]

An interesting project would be to locate the businesses capable of printing such a massive banner in the surrounding area of where it was displayed.

[antceecee]

I wonder where they are getting the "cadavers" mostly women and children?
We will probably eventually find out they killed non-Muslim women and children in order to "stage' the scene.

[mcashman]

The same time delay problems for printing show up when painting. It's actually harder to paint.

1) Someone has to get a giant piece of canvas from the Hezb'allah propaganda warehouse.

2) Someone else has to draw Condi on this giant canvas with total realism, despite the fact that the canvas is so big they can't see it; or, they have to project the image on the giant canvas using a very powerful projector and trace it.

3) They have to paint it.

4) They have to wait for it to dry to some extent.

5) They have to move it to the site.

As with printing - this is probably days.

[Piranha]

I think that the number of casualties (53, allegedly) is in the caption to the picture, not in the poster itself. The poster makes no mention of a number of victims.

[colorado tanker]

The Israelis had leafletted this village days in advance, to minimize civilian deaths. They had all that time to prepare what to do when the airstrike came. Ironic it's the same village where they used a bombing to start a pr offensive to stop another Israeli offensive several years ago.

[SpaceBar]

things have been staged in the past

The Glewitz Incident (Wikipedia).

[Republican Red]

I have been reading on a few blogs that it is beginning to look like bodies were moved from graves in Tyre to Qana and staged for the media who are happily lapping it all up.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/07/a_tyre_for_qana.html

[TASMANIANRED]

Just like Jenin was faked.

[Tennessean4Bush]

I was thinking the same thing, but was not sure if the banner referred to Qana massacre as I cannot read arabic. Are we sure it refers to that incident?

[COBOL2Java]

It says "Please bomb us to the 8th century - our culture is too backwards to be part of the 21st."

[Richard Axtell]

I am willing to predict that some tangentially involved person will come forward and confirm that this is all a big high school play, with stand-in stiffs and the same green helmeted relief worker posing for pictures all afternoon long. Doesn't matter, damage is done. This is all meant for the benefit of the sheeplike and gullible "Arab Street" we hear about ad nauseum. Israel cannot win at this kind of phony propaganda game, so don't even play. Respond with ground troops, and end the career of fat cynical murderers like Nasrallah.

[Tennessean4Bush]

Hell cannot burn hot enough for these animals.

[Alouette]

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[Political Junkie Too]

As was reported elsewhere, it's not just the reference to Qana, but to Qana 2. There was a similar incident in 1996 in Qana, where the Israeli's pulled out after accidentally hitting a civilian building. Apparently, the Hezbollah were trying to recreate the event in order to recreate the outcome.

-PJ

[Republican Red]

Real intersting read over at EU Referendum (by way of Little Green Footballs):

EU Referendum

LGF

Who is this man?

EU Referendum has an update on the Hizballah “rescue worker” in the green helmet, the guy who paraded around with children’s bodies for hours at Qana, posing them for photographers.

Turns out that Green Helmet Guy must be the official Hizballah body handler; he has a history of turning up at attack sites and putting on ghoulish shows. EU Referendum found a photo from 1996, showing him displaying another dead child to photographers: Who Is This Man?

1996 picture of Green Helmet Man



2006 picture of Green Helmet Man: