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Was Qana Staged? (Banner of Sec. Rice had to be made well in advance)
NRO ^ | 7/31/2006 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:28:04 PM PDT by Uncledave

Was Qana Staged? Cont'd [Jonah Goldberg]

A giant banner denouncing Rice and the "Qana massacre" might have been made a bit too quickly.

I don't want to get too far out ahead on this, but I know we've got a zillion printer-type folks among our readers. Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?

Update: From a reader:

"Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?"

Heck no. A designer could throw it together in probably 15 minutes or so, but the longest part would be the printing. Notice how deep the reds and blacks are - this means they didn't just bust it out. I wouldnt be surprised if that job itself (requiring special equipment, as it looks to be printed on canvas or nylon, not merely paper) took 6 hours simply to print.

Also, that puppy would be expensive.

Update II: From a reader:

Nope. Not possible in 2 hours to design, typeset, print, assemble and transport to the site. 24 hours if you're really good to do all the above. I say that as an career commercial artist of 18 years now.

Update III: From another reader:

called a close friend who has a very large printing company in NY with the question.  he called out to one of his technicians as to how long a color 30 foot banner would take to produce.  the response was that it would have to be done by a special machine and that machine would take "5 to 6 hours."     by the way, their rather enormous, state of the art (less than 6 months old) facility doesn't even have the equipment necessary to do it.  so make a guess as to what's available in a war-ravaged area...

 



TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollywood; israel; jonahgoldberg; qana; rice
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To: HitmanLV

I'm sure you know the accidental bombing of civilians effectively stopped a war in Qana ten years ago. Then again, maybe i am just easy to convince that hezbollah are slime.


41 posted on 07/31/2006 5:10:30 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: libbylu
Ok, I am convinced Cana was a set up. How does this news get to the media?

Paging Dan Rather. Paging Dan Rather. You have lots of time on your hands

< / sarc >

42 posted on 07/31/2006 5:10:37 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: libbylu

Yes I am aware. If it is about Qana, and if it can't be put together in about 24 hours or so, it's pretty damning.


43 posted on 07/31/2006 5:11:57 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: ASA Vet


re#38 LOL. And I think we have some winners here. ;^)


44 posted on 07/31/2006 5:16:04 PM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: colorado tanker

Did it say they went back to sleep?? My guess is that they were busy killing children.


45 posted on 07/31/2006 5:17:40 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Uncledave

Maybe its not printed but painted....a hack painter could do it fast


46 posted on 07/31/2006 5:18:46 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Uncledave

It was discussed yesterday at post 1033 and 1091 on the Middle East Live Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674513/posts?q=1&&page=1091

and then linked by Topix.net yesterday

I am sure there are similar discussions all over the non-Muslim world


47 posted on 07/31/2006 5:20:11 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Uncledave

Yep, that puppy was printed a few days ago. That's not something for your Epson printer. More and more the facts are falling into place that Qana was staged by an extremely manipulative bunch of murderers.

And everyone in the West (+ Israel) fell for it!! Don't you know that Ahmadinejab, Hezbollah and the A-rabs are celebrating tonight!!!!


48 posted on 07/31/2006 5:21:01 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: colorado tanker
The banner specifically references Qana, then? Meaning it could not have been just laying around. It had to be produced by someone who knew about Qana - or knew it was going to happen.

Sounds incredibly fishy.

49 posted on 07/31/2006 5:21:47 PM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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To: Uncledave
I am a graphic designer and illustrator with 30 years of experience in the field, 21 in computer graphics. If the Arabic text specifically names "Qana", and it wasn't a last minute insertion in a banner already ready to print... or s "surprint" on a banner already printed, the whole issue of whether to do this in the first place makes it impossible to: 1.) come up with the idea and slogan in the first place 2.) find an artist, 3.) he finds photographic images of Condi from which to work, 3.) he designs and gets the final artwork approved and to the printer, 4.) and the large scale digital spray printing device begins to print this out on canvas or fabric. All told, I would estimate it would realistically take 2-3 days to get this done. Not 2-4 hours. Why not just whip out a quick spray can job with a crude cartoon, if time really was an issue?

This is part of an elaborate, multi-media campaign in the works for many days, if not weeks. Qana is an orchestrated fraud, and the American MSM are the foolish and willing dupes of a cynical and murderous terrorist evil. This cinches it, IMHO.

50 posted on 07/31/2006 5:21:51 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: woofie
Maybe its not printed but painted....a hack painter could do it fast

Interesting thought, I had the same one.

51 posted on 07/31/2006 5:23:04 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Richard Axtell

see my #46 ...is it posssible ? were there multibles?


52 posted on 07/31/2006 5:23:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: TASMANIANRED
From the link...

"Hezbollah supporters place a banner showing US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and reading in Arabic: "The massacre of children in Qana 2, is the gift of Rice. The clever bombs..Stupid," in downtown Beirut. Fifty-two people were killed, many of them sleeping children, when Israeli warplanes blitzed the Lebanese village of Qana, triggering global outrage and warnings of retribution for a "war crime" as a ceasefire appeared more remote than ever.(AFP/Ramzi Haidar)"

53 posted on 07/31/2006 5:24:24 PM PDT by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: woofie
Maybe its not printed but painted....a hack painter could do it fast

It looks as though the artifacts from heavy compression have been reproduced along with everything else. I'm more inclined to think it's a photo snagged off the !ntarweb.

54 posted on 07/31/2006 5:25:07 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (What is our exit strategy in the war on poverty?)
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To: Piranha

"The clever bombs...Stupid."

Was James Carville the advisor in the Clinton campaign who coined the phrase "it's the economy, stupid". Is he working for Hezbollah now?

Why is it that the words coming out of the mouths of democrats and terrorists always sound so similar?


55 posted on 07/31/2006 5:26:25 PM PDT by bw17
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To: Suzy Quzy
The bodies were all in the basement in a state of repose, indicated no one was trying to get out of the house, implying they were asleep.

Of course, you'd get the same scene if these were stiffs trucked in from morgues in Tyre overnight and placed in the basement area to be hauled out after the "journalists" arrived.

56 posted on 07/31/2006 5:26:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SlowBoat407

The old way to do that is to project it on the canvass and paint it


57 posted on 07/31/2006 5:26:50 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Uncledave

bttt


58 posted on 07/31/2006 5:26:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Uncledave
Doesn't matter if it was and I believe it was. It will NEVER be broadcast on Al Jihad TV. Even if it was the illiterate animals will never believe it.
59 posted on 07/31/2006 5:27:25 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Jet Jaguar

btttt


60 posted on 07/31/2006 5:27:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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