Posted on 07/31/2006 4:28:04 PM PDT by Uncledave
Was Qana Staged? Cont'd [Jonah Goldberg]
I don't want to get too far out ahead on this, but I know we've got a zillion printer-type folks among our readers. Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?
Update: From a reader:
"Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?"
Heck no. A designer could throw it together in probably 15 minutes or so, but the longest part would be the printing. Notice how deep the reds and blacks are - this means they didn't just bust it out. I wouldnt be surprised if that job itself (requiring special equipment, as it looks to be printed on canvas or nylon, not merely paper) took 6 hours simply to print.
Also, that puppy would be expensive.
Update II: From a reader:
Nope. Not possible in 2 hours to design, typeset, print, assemble and transport to the site. 24 hours if you're really good to do all the above. I say that as an career commercial artist of 18 years now.
Update III: From another reader:
called a close friend who has a very large printing company in NY with the question. he called out to one of his technicians as to how long a color 30 foot banner would take to produce. the response was that it would have to be done by a special machine and that machine would take "5 to 6 hours." by the way, their rather enormous, state of the art (less than 6 months old) facility doesn't even have the equipment necessary to do it. so make a guess as to what's available in a war-ravaged area...
The "Arab Street" is probably but a secondary target.
The primary target is clearly the West's MSM. And they bought it hook, line and sinker. Just like they swallowed Racak -- despite all the hints that it was a fabrication, which would have been revealed if they'd just examined their own photographs a little more carefully.
This is a Roland (French Company) manufacturers outlet, but they do printing service too. They say they can print full color 104" wide media, at a very fast rate. The issue is then, planning the thing and getting it done. It could have been printed in 3 to 4 hours, if all preliminary work was done and the printing technician was sitting there with his finger hovering over the start button, when he then hears about the "Qana 2 Massacre". There really isn't any doubt at this point, this was a cynical, orchestrated, proganda stunt, and it should be called for what it is.
Hezbollah learned well from the VC and the NVA back in Vietnam.
You bet. But there are such beasts. Examine some of the outdoor boards in your area -- the large 14x48 types.
This kind of board used to be referred to as "a painted bulletin". Many of them now employ printed Tyvek, stretched taut across the face of the board by rollers.
The reproduction values are outstanding -- just like the image seen on this poster.
I have seen reports that "some of the children appear to have been handicapped".
1. Hezbollah has planned this media event for some time, trying to create the "massacre-of-children" story, or the "destruction-of-a-Mosque" story.
2. Rounding up handicapped children, putting them in a building that was bombed at 1:30 am, blowing up that building at 7:30 am, and bringing in carloads of journalists and phony "rescue workers" is not at all unlikely given that these people train children to carry bombs onto buses.
3. The surprising attacks on the UN appear to have been planned and staged, certainly by Iran.
4. It looks like Iran is doing everything in its power to protect its nuclear bomb, including provoking a war with Israel, having Hezbollah terrorists murder children for the benefit of the fools in the media and the west, and attacking the UN directly.
5. It is now time to bomb all of Iran's nuclear facilities, and do everything in our power to destroy that regime, as well as its terrorist footsoldiers in Hezbollah.
Roland is a Japanese multinational, not specifically French... my mistake. I was thinking of Schlumberger, which also makes large scale printing\plotting equipment.
http://www.roland-lb.com/printing.htm
This particular machine will print a Tyvek strip (or a similar material) that is 8'8" wide and indeterminant length.
Just guessing, but the photograph of the poster suggests a width of about 8'8"...
"Dr Race" ..... typo?
Yea, a typo. "Dr. Rice" (I never care much for calling her 'Condi,' like she is my nextdoor neighbor or something).
Very interesting!
Semper Fi
OH GOD! ROFLMAO!
50 kids in a tobacco farmers house....
Sure..
It is possible that they were prostesting the Qana attack of 1996, or at least that will be their excuse (if the MSM ever picks this story up and calls them to question for it).
An earlier poster questioned whether this quality of banner could be produced in a "war zone" and since there is at least one company in Beirut that has the machinery to pull it off, the answer is "yes", it could have been produced locally. Wouldn't have to go as far as Damascus or Teheran.
It would be interesting to have someone in the ME contact this Beirut company and ask them how long it would take for them to produce a banner with the same qualities of the Condi one once all the artwork has been provided and the layout done (without referring to the Condi one, of course).
The answer would be rhetorical, because we already know the answer.
My memory was inaccurate.
Assuming the soldier is 5-6, the poster is somewhere between 12' and 15' wide (there's a parallax distortion between the top and the bottom). The length, though it doesn't appear to be fully unrolled, would be somewhere between 30' and 37'.
In other words, that's a painted bulletin sized piece of Tyvek -- requiring an even larger ink jet printer.
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