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Frightening internal polling (House GOP to lose 30 seats?)
RedState ^ | Jul 30th, 2006 | HoosierTeacher

Posted on 07/30/2006 2:06:41 PM PDT by rface

Rush Limbaugh announced on his show that the GOP house internal polling shows a circa 30 seat loss for 2006.

It is hard for me to write much on this subject, as internal polling is secretive and not generaly available to public scrutiny. But there are some thoughts for discussion here.

One, is Rush correct? I don't think Rush makes it up as he goes along. He is human, and can make errors (as can anybody talking solo for 15 hours a week). But I haven't known him to lie outright on a political matter ever. I believe Rush has reported what he has gleaned from a GOP member of congress or a staffer.

Two, is the information correct? Is it a leak, or a misinformation campaign? I guess I don't see much value in leaking incorrect data to Rush exagerating a potential house loss. So I tend to believe the leaker was being accurate.

Three, should Rush have reported this (and should I write about it)? No to the first part. Internal polling is not meant to be leaked or reported. Once millions of Rush listeners have the info, it is already public and so I offer it here for your analysis.

Four, implications? Internal polling isn't the "for public" polling that you get from groups like Zogby, Gallup, Rasmussen, etc. Internal polling is the hard core, scientific, no spin accurate stuff that the candidates and the parties get and is held close to their vests. Only the best of the best work directly for the parties and candidates. My point is that if the information Rush reported is accurate, there are dark times ahead.

Implications go beyond this too. With the recent failure of the GOP by raising the minimum wage and cutting (but enshrining) a major tax, and with no movement on issues like arctic and offshore drilling, the slow pace of federal court appointments, and unreal spending, the GOP is losing the base. Despite our war on terror and a robust economy, Americans see casualty numbers and gas prices.

Having just adjourned for a recess, I see little the house can do other than campaign localy in the near term. If we blow this election we have no one to blame other than ourselves (a moderate to liberal GOP senate and a spend happy house).

"Where have you gone Ronald Reagan, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006polls; bushbasherswonderwhy; conservabotstoblame; election2006; electionconngress; elephanteatsownhead; geeiwonderwhy; predictions; timetolookinmirror; wearedoomed
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Comment #101 Removed by Moderator

To: DB
Class of '98, yet you don't post here much. [giggle]

Say, have you guys found a new home yet? I was very sorry [snort] to hear about that "server shutting you down" thing!

102 posted on 07/30/2006 3:07:12 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop
LOL. I am curious as to the identity of the 'chairman' who wanted Novak to publish this newsy tidbit. Was it done to help or hurt---inquiring minds and all that.
103 posted on 07/30/2006 3:07:22 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: WOSG

We should run candidates just a liberal as Pelosi to make sure they don't win and we retain the House.


104 posted on 07/30/2006 3:07:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: TEX06

Welcome to the forum


105 posted on 07/30/2006 3:08:17 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: DB; All

So they don't do things your way you are going to act like a spoiled little brat...


106 posted on 07/30/2006 3:08:22 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: mountainfolk
You're still here? Where's my whistle?!?

"Security! Security!!!"

107 posted on 07/30/2006 3:09:10 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Mamzelle

Sadly, you are right. It is the House, however, that has stayed closer to the base. It is the Republican Senate that has wimped out.


108 posted on 07/30/2006 3:09:18 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: mountainfolk; All

Why should we believe Novak in the first place???


109 posted on 07/30/2006 3:09:29 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: TEX06

The NJ open seat to be filled (currently held temporarily by a Dem) is in a strongly Dem district ("plurality of Hispanics"). So, we'll lose that one. The current lone Independent in the House caucauses with the Dems, so we can assume 231-203 going into November. So, again, it looks like if we lose 14 seats (down to 217), we could lose control (unless the "Blue Dog" Dems save us or switch parties).


110 posted on 07/30/2006 3:10:25 PM PDT by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Howlin

For some of us, it's a real conundrum. If you vote for the democrat, Heaven help you. If you vote for the republican, they will NEVER stop giving us Rinos to vote for. If you don't vote, you are called unAmerican. I really don't know what to do.
susie


111 posted on 07/30/2006 3:10:35 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: MississippiMan

"Think about it: Who in the GOP house/senate jumps out as a smart tough leader? How many can we name?

Tom Tancredo (R-CO); although he doesn't have the chance of that proverbial snowball.

Senator John Cornyn of Texas: He just doesn't get much publicity but he is a hard working, behind-the-scenes Conservative.

Tha...tha...tha...that's all folks!!!


112 posted on 07/30/2006 3:11:21 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: BushMeister

"How did my comment elicit such a question from you?"

I don't know what your specific answer is, but I think many people would blame conservatives if this actually happened.

The GOP needs to try conservatism. Retaining the house without having the guiding principles of limited government means that conservatives get hosed either way.


113 posted on 07/30/2006 3:12:01 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: TEX06


TEX06
Since Apr 30, 2006

Every post you've made has been a bash of either local, state, or national Republicans, while repeatedly endorsing independent leftist Kinky Friedman.

What was your prior freepname?


114 posted on 07/30/2006 3:13:38 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: RFEngineer

You mean that tax-cutting, pro-life, conservative-judges, strong-military, aggressive-national-defense approach? Why should they? They do it, and all the "real conservatives" bitch and moan that they didn't do "X" or "Y," so "I'm gonna stay home and let the liberals take over!"


115 posted on 07/30/2006 3:14:18 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Sure. And I knew they did see that Dems have more wealthy donors. I just wondered how closely fundraising seems to tie into actual voting. I would imagine if you put your money where you're mouth is, you do go vote. However, I also know of people who donate to both parties, so I'm not sure how they vote (unless of course they go for the vote early/vote often scenario!) ;)
susie


116 posted on 07/30/2006 3:14:33 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Coop

What are you talking about?


117 posted on 07/30/2006 3:15:38 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Diddle E. Squat; TEX06

Now you jes' hush!! Ol' Tex is a genyooine conservative just a worried 'bout his/her conservative valyooz! :-D


118 posted on 07/30/2006 3:15:52 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: roses of sharon

How about acting conservative?

Is that too much for this idiot?


119 posted on 07/30/2006 3:16:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: grapeape
We have made some huge mistakes in Iraq.

Like what?

120 posted on 07/30/2006 3:16:21 PM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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