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PHOTOS: Dead children of Qana; Islamofacists are to blame, but pray for these innocents (graphic)
Yahoo News Photos ^ | 7/20/06

Posted on 07/30/2006 2:04:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar

Suffer the Little Children to Come Unto Me

"And they brought young children to Him, that He should touch them: and His disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God."
(Mark 10:13-14)

Jesus did not say suffer the children to come unto Him, except those born to Muslim parents. Remember the children of Beslan, Russia? The people to blame for this morning's tragedy are the Islamofacist ADULTS, men who commit wanton slaughter and the women -- the women who let their men strap bombs on their children, and who teach their children to commit murder-suicide. Condem them, but pray for the innocents, for whom there is NO choice.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; babyterrorists; beslan; children; humanshields; innocents; islamofacists; lebanon; qana; tragedy
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To: ApplegateRanch
Then you are purposefully dense. Israel had the choice of sitting back, doing nothing while absorbing enemy attacks, or, in your words, saying "okay you want a fight, let's have one." It is not a matter of WANTING a fight; it is a matter of being forced to either fight or be killed. Do you honestly think Hezballah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and all the rest would not keep attacking and indiscriminately killing, until evey Israeli was dead, if Israel refused to fight?

I think you are arguing with someone that agrees with your postion. Sorry if I was not clear in my request for you to elaborate on the sentence you posted.

There is no doubt where the problem lies. The rest of the world has looked the other way while fathers sent their 15-year-old sons strapped with bombs about their waist into a school bus to blow off the arms and legs of Israeli school children.

401 posted on 07/30/2006 11:04:48 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: bybybill

"Sure, the Israelis are innocent. Those kids were killed by others and some have dreams to prove it."

Since you have no argument, you resort to other tactics.

Why don't you prove that the Israelis knew there were children there? Or, why don't you prove that the building crashed to the ground right after the attack?

Why don't you prove something rather than nothing?


402 posted on 07/30/2006 11:11:35 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: BJungNan

Sorry for misconstruing your post.

An honorable man, facing an honorable opponent can make a case for refusing to fight, and still survive; maybe even form a grudging friendship.

Mohammed, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Saddam, et al show that this does not stand a chance with the dishonorable, the deranged, or "True Believer"; they will laugh, and kill anyway. Killing them first is the only defense.

That is why I say it takes two to make a fight, but only one to make a massacre.


403 posted on 07/30/2006 11:14:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Democratshavenobrains; NRA2BFree; Lady Jag; Alouette; Shimmer128; caryatid; Fred Nerks; ...
I AM crying uncontrollably now... due to my sorrow at the stupidity of the KOSsacks.

"...Make no mistake, these radical beasts including Hezbollah and freepers are the enemies we're dealing with. They have no souls. They need to be defeated for the decency of humanity... [blah blah blah]... I suggest we should set up a team to monitor and record every freeper hater. Folks, don't underestimate them. I have no doubt if they can get away, they will have no problem killing every liberal.

I think they are declaring their own jihad on Freepers.... and according to their "poll" so far:

Which freeper is the potential killer?

NRA2BFree 2 votes - 8 %

Lady Jag 2 votes - 8 %

Alouette 0 votes - 0 %

Shimmer128 0 votes - 0 %

caryatid 1 vote - 4 %

All 20 votes - 80 %

25 Total Votes

Personally, I would have thought Darwinism in action alone would have been a much bigger threat to them...

404 posted on 07/30/2006 11:16:19 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF
but I'm still not done with my Mohammed Al Dura flashbacks...

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Neither am I. The building was hit around midnight IIRC, it didn't collapse until around 8.00 am I correct? How long did it take to get the people out? Didn't anyone know they were in there?

Rigor mortis? Commences approx three hours after death, reaching maximum at around 12 hours...

405 posted on 07/30/2006 11:16:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: USF
And I didn't even get a mention? I'M sooooooooooooo DISAPPOINTED. SmileyCentral.com
406 posted on 07/30/2006 11:23:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Wolfstar
Hezbollah is to blame for this. They use women, mosques and children as shields and everyone knows it. The hatred for Israel is overwhelming. Israel has tried options and negotiated and has made amends, but to no avail apparently.

Hezbollah claims that Irael cannot exist. What country could accept this? It is human nature to survive.

407 posted on 07/30/2006 11:25:31 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents or anyone just passing through)
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To: Fred Nerks

Excellent info. Thanks.

To bad we are still told its a religion that is being hijacked by a small minority of extremists.

73% of Palestinian's supported suicide attacks against USA in Nov. 2000 poll


408 posted on 07/30/2006 11:31:36 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: TomasUSMC

There have been polls taken about how many muslims approve of suicide bombing, and how many would like to be martyrs or shahid, and the number of Muslims approving is high. So many Muslims think it is the greatest thing ever to die in the killing of Jews. I have seen so much that I am not really impressed by it. Savages and the civilized just do not think alike, and so be it.


409 posted on 07/31/2006 12:06:35 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: USF

LOLOLOL!! That is hysterical. Thanks for pinging me to it. ;o)


410 posted on 07/31/2006 12:43:30 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I.)
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To: Tarkus2040
Thanks for posting that. I'm watching the end of it now.

A little bit earlier I was reading about Mohammad al-Durrah at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Al_Dura

At the time that "happened" I thought the little boy died by Israeli hands, but heard sometime later it might have been staged. I also remember hearing about the corpse that kept getting back on the stretcher that's seen in the link you posted.

Then there's this from a story about Haditha I posted back in June:

Haditha: Blood Money, Lies and Videotape? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642134/posts Excerpt...

Would Muslims lie in order to obtain blood money payments? Some insight comes in this response to the collapse of the British trial posted online by a Baghdad-based US contractor.

I’ve been in Iraq for about 18 months now performing construction management. It is simply not possible for me to exaggerate the massive amounts of lies we wade through every single day. There is no way - absolutely none - to determine facts from bulls*** from these people.

To be fair to individual Iraqis, lying and deception is an integral part of their culture. It is not even considered lying to them; it is more akin to being clever - like keeping your cards close to your chest. And they don’t just lie to westerners. They believe that appearances--saving face--are of paramount importance. They lie to each other all the time about anything in order to leverage others on a deal or manipulate an outcome of some sort or cover up some major or minor embarrassment. It’s just how they do things, period.

I’m not trying to disparage them here. I get along great with a lot of them. But even among those that I like, if something happens I’ll get 50 wildly different stories, every time. There’s no comparison to it in any other part of the world where I’ve worked. The lying is ubiquitous and constant.

Obviously in the case of these soldiers, the “witnesses” were lying with malice for profit - saving face had nothing to do with it.

But every Westerner here has been taken totally by surprise by the lies upon lies upon BS and lies. It makes it impossible to form any agreements, impossible to plan anything, and impossible to investigate anything….

Remember this every time you see news reports where Iraqi “witnesses” say that American planes killed a bunch of civilians somewhere…. First, those people are living under the threat of terrorists in their midst - what do you think they are going to say when a western camera is thrust into their face, nice shot America! Death to the terrorists! They’d be dead in 5 minutes.

It drives those of us who work closely with the Iraqis absolutely mad. It makes me sick and alarmed to think of any westerner being brought up on charges of any kind based strictly on the words of an Arab. I’m sure the prosecutors were informed by field officers and others about the Iraqi propensity to lie about everything all the time. Shame on them (the British Ministry of Defense) for going forward without any other evidence.

It's like the boy that cried, "Wolf!" or Jesse Jackson crying, "Racism". I'm not saying that some children didn't die but I don't trust the "facts" at first blush.

411 posted on 07/31/2006 1:19:02 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Wolfstar
re :This thread is the rare one today that is not about fixing blame, but about reflecting on the innocent children whose lives were lost.

Very good point

412 posted on 07/31/2006 2:11:05 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: Fred Nerks

Please look at some of those other pictures that were posted earlier where the concrete walls are undisturbed.


413 posted on 07/31/2006 3:15:35 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674949/posts

Hezbollywood? Evidence mounts that Qana collapse and deaths were staged

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414 posted on 07/31/2006 3:19:40 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: mystery-ak

I'll stick by what I've said about Wolfstar's post.


415 posted on 07/31/2006 3:24:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Fred Nerks
And I didn't even get a mention? I'M sooooooooooooo DISAPPOINTED.

That would be redundant, it's a well-known fact that all Aussies are potential killers.

416 posted on 07/31/2006 3:26:53 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Wolfstar
I will pray for the innocents.

How long does it take for rigor to set in?

Some of these babies from Qana look a mite stiff. Something stinks here and it isn't the bodies.

417 posted on 07/31/2006 3:27:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for that link. I think at least some of the "victims" died elsewhere since they don't appear to have bomb injuries, building collapse injuries or Hezbollah secondary explosion injuries.


418 posted on 07/31/2006 3:29:12 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Wolfstar; Peach
Peach, sometimes it's painful to be right -- but on Wolfstar's post yesterday I'm right. With it she's done more damage than Johnnny Taliban ever did in his lamentable career as a terrorist. The Qana episode is staged. The enemy launchded deadly missiles again and again from that city. Finally the Israelis hit them back.

In the morning -- when all the camera crews and newsmen were awake the enemy rushed them to the scene of *staged* devastation.

And waited for the echo chamber to start up.

Woldstar's post was aid and assistance to the enemy. It may be a volunteer post, but her post is the agitprop that was "over the top".

419 posted on 07/31/2006 3:33:29 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html

Someone else has taken the time to analyse the images...

"Whatever else, the event in Qana was a human tragedy. But the photographs do not show it honestly. Rather, they have been staged for effect, exploiting the victims in an unwholesome manner. In so doing, they are no longer news photographs - they are propaganda. And, whoever said the camera cannot lie forgot that photographers can and do. Those lies have spread throughout the world by now and will be in this morning's newspapers, accepted as real by the millions who view them."


420 posted on 07/31/2006 3:38:15 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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