President Finds His Veto Pen (embryo stem cell research)

[Lunatic Fringe]

WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush has issued the first veto of his presidency, rejecting a bill to expand federal research on stem cells obtained from embryos.

[My2Cents]

Obviously, Bush is more willing to veto bills on ethical grounds, than on fiscal grounds. I know this drives many, if not most, conservatives crazy. But the fact he stepped up and exercised his veto on moral...even religious grounds...is one of the main reasons I voted for him. I'm proud of my vote for Bush, and I'm proud of him.

[ohioWfan]

But he DID veto this one, so he does have a spine, right?

Or do the standards change at will, just like the morals do?

[ohioWfan]

Wrong motives? And you know this exactly how??

[jwalsh07]

5th and 14th Amendments. Maybe you should brush up on the Constitution?

[My2Cents]

A little late, I'm afraid.

What would you prefer? Rampant radical secularist policies influencing the government? That's been tried, and we defeated it in Europe in 1945, and it collapsed in Eastern Europe in 1989.

[ohioWfan]

Don't forget most "modern" conservatives believe it is OK to fund moral "absolutes" by gouging taxpayers. I don't think taxpayers should fork the bill for things that push my personal social agenda

Then you do support the President's veto of this bill, right?

btw, can you give an example of something that 'modern' conservatives want the taxpayers to fund?

As a long time moral and fiscal conservative, I'd like to know what you're referring to.

[garbanzo]

Bush goes against the majority of Congress and 70% of American people to push his personal religious point of view.

Vetoed bills, by definition, go against the majority of Congress. Bills that don't have majority support don't reach the President's desk.

[Sam Ketcham]

The difference with Bush and the Demonrats is that he pushes for "Individual rights" not alleged "group rights". Selling a dead baby for stem cell research is barbaric. There are other cells as viable as aborted baby's stem cells. READ UP!

As far as your 70% number goes, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot. This is each individual's human life we are talking about, not religion, and not the right of groups to cannibalize other human beings for parts.

[ohioWfan]

There seem to be a lot of non-viable libertarians on this thread.

[Republican Wildcat]

No, the burden is not on me to prove a negative.

LOL - that would be if someone was accusing you of something. This is in reference to something YOU said.

You are making yourself look more silly with each post.

[Republican Wildcat]

I guess he supported the CFR bill being signed, since a majority in polls said they supported it and it was supported by a majority in Congress.

[jwalsh07]

"Pro choice" libertarians are my pet peeve. They're clowns. Their prime directive is non aggression but agressing against the weakest of all is AOK. I can't decide whether they or Pat Buchanans cowardly views on Israel irk me more. It's a photo finish at any rate.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

You don't get it. You truly do not get it.

[ohioWfan]

Want to see something that's NOT silly (like the Lunatic here)?

ETHICS at work!

[Lunatic Fringe]

Selling a dead baby for stem cell research is barbaric

Show me the "dead baby" in this picture.

[ohioWfan]

How can any true libertarian be pro-abortion?

The most fundamental LIBERTY is the right to LIVE.

Without it, no other liberty matters.

[Republican Wildcat]

Want to see something that's NOT silly (like the Lunatic here)?

What? You mean that thing Bush is holding - that former zygote?

[Republican Wildcat]

I'd think the libertarians would have applauded this bill on the grounds it was Federal spending, but apparently they are all for Federal spending that devalues humanity.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Did you know before 1869, the Catholic Church's official policy was that a human embryo did not have a soul until the woman was at least 6 weeks pregnant?

WHAT CHANGED???

Politics. The Pro-Choice loons have defined human life as an egg that has been fertilized for 1 second. Science does not support that.

[Republican Wildcat]

That is, the veto of the bill.