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President Finds His Veto Pen (embryo stem cell research)
Posted on 07/19/2006 11:14:14 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush has issued the first veto of his presidency, rejecting a bill to expand federal research on stem cells obtained from embryos.
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To: Soul Seeker
Obviously, Bush is more willing to veto bills on ethical grounds, than on fiscal grounds. I know this drives many, if not most, conservatives crazy. But the fact he stepped up and exercised his veto on moral...even religious grounds...is one of the main reasons I voted for him. I'm proud of my vote for Bush, and I'm proud of him.
To: stands2reason
But he DID veto this one, so he does have a spine, right?
Or do the standards change at will, just like the morals do?
442
posted on
07/19/2006 6:32:00 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: newfarm4000n
Wrong motives? And you know this exactly how??
443
posted on
07/19/2006 6:33:05 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: newfarm4000n
5th and 14th Amendments. Maybe you should brush up on the Constitution?
To: Lunatic Fringe
A little late, I'm afraid. What would you prefer? Rampant radical secularist policies influencing the government? That's been tried, and we defeated it in Europe in 1945, and it collapsed in Eastern Europe in 1989.
To: newfarm4000n
Don't forget most "modern" conservatives believe it is OK to fund moral "absolutes" by gouging taxpayers. I don't think taxpayers should fork the bill for things that push my personal social agendaThen you do support the President's veto of this bill, right?
btw, can you give an example of something that 'modern' conservatives want the taxpayers to fund?
As a long time moral and fiscal conservative, I'd like to know what you're referring to.
446
posted on
07/19/2006 6:36:13 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: Lunatic Fringe
Bush goes against the majority of Congress and 70% of American people to push his personal religious point of view. Vetoed bills, by definition, go against the majority of Congress. Bills that don't have majority support don't reach the President's desk.
447
posted on
07/19/2006 6:36:18 PM PDT
by
garbanzo
(Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
To: Lunatic Fringe
The difference with Bush and the Demonrats is that he pushes for "Individual rights" not alleged "group rights". Selling a dead baby for stem cell research is barbaric. There are other cells as viable as aborted baby's stem cells. READ UP!
As far as your 70% number goes, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot. This is each individual's human life we are talking about, not religion, and not the right of groups to cannibalize other human beings for parts.
448
posted on
07/19/2006 6:36:40 PM PDT
by
Sam Ketcham
(Amnesty means vote dilution, more poverty aid and we will be bankrupt! Or are we already?)
To: jwalsh07
There seem to be a lot of non-viable libertarians on this thread.
449
posted on
07/19/2006 6:38:10 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: Lunatic Fringe
No, the burden is not on me to prove a negative. LOL - that would be if someone was accusing you of something. This is in reference to something YOU said.
You are making yourself look more silly with each post.
To: garbanzo
I guess he supported the CFR bill being signed, since a majority in polls said they supported it and it was supported by a majority in Congress.
To: ohioWfan
"Pro choice" libertarians are my pet peeve. They're clowns. Their prime directive is non aggression but agressing against the weakest of all is AOK. I can't decide whether they or Pat Buchanans cowardly views on Israel irk me more. It's a photo finish at any rate.
To: Lunatic Fringe
You don't get it. You truly do not get it.
To: Republican Wildcat; Lunatic Fringe
Want to see something that's NOT silly (like the Lunatic here)?
ETHICS at work!
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posted on
07/19/2006 6:42:29 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: Sam Ketcham
Selling a dead baby for stem cell research is barbaric![](http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/zygote.jpg)
Show me the "dead baby" in this picture.
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posted on
07/19/2006 6:42:40 PM PDT
by
Lunatic Fringe
(Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
To: jwalsh07
How can any true libertarian be pro-abortion?
The most fundamental LIBERTY is the right to LIVE.
Without it, no other liberty matters.
456
posted on
07/19/2006 6:45:30 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
To: ohioWfan
Want to see something that's NOT silly (like the Lunatic here)? What? You mean that thing Bush is holding - that former zygote?
To: jwalsh07
I'd think the libertarians would have applauded this bill on the grounds it was Federal spending, but apparently they are all for Federal spending that devalues humanity.
To: ohioWfan
Did you know before 1869, the Catholic Church's official policy was that a human embryo did not have a soul until the woman was at least 6 weeks pregnant?
WHAT CHANGED???
Politics. The Pro-Choice loons have defined human life as an egg that has been fertilized for 1 second. Science does not support that.
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posted on
07/19/2006 6:48:29 PM PDT
by
Lunatic Fringe
(Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
To: jwalsh07
That is, the veto of the bill.
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