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U.S. Rescue Bogs Down in Lebanon
LATimes ^ | July 18, 2006 | Megan K. Stack

Posted on 07/18/2006 12:46:21 AM PDT by rebel_yell2

BEIRUT — Thousands of Americans whose vacations and business trips to Lebanon have degenerated with sickening speed into stints in a battle zone remained stranded here under Israeli bombardment Monday, their frustration and anger mounting because the U.S. government hasn't gotten them out faster.

Waiting around Beirut with bags packed and fingers crossed, U.S. citizens derided the embassy for busy phone lines, a lack of information and gnawing uncertainty over when and whether they will get out. Hundreds were expected to be shipped to Cyprus today, but how long the full evacuation will take remains uncertain.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israeliwar; 6thwardvisitors; bogdown; expats; imfnwo; lebanonevacuation; prayers4rebelyell2; quagmire; quagmiretemplate; rebelyell2; rescue; shepsmith; statedeptadvisory; usembassy; wgaf; whinegrouses; womenchildren1st
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To: DvdMom; rebel_yell2

Have you read my posts to rebel during the thread? I bet not. Rebel was pretty free with insults on this thread himself- so I assume since he can dish it out he should be able to take it.

Everything I posted to rebel was with the intent of informing him of something I felt he needed to understand about working/traveling out of US. He seemed to be new at it, or had been lucky enough to not need to know before. I was in support of him, but also tried to get him to face reality- I know when I am in a jamb I want people to tell me the truth- whether it is what I want to hear or not.

I don't want someone agreeing with everything I say or sugar coating the facts. I tried to always be supportive of him and at the same time point out some things I thought he needed to know.

When he had an issue with what I had to say- he posted to me and I responded. If he still has an issue with me, he can still post to me. I will not discuss with you the back and forth I had with him, frankly I don't think it's your business.


1,181 posted on 07/19/2006 10:21:18 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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To: conservative in nyc

The Israeli Navy also searched the Orient Queen prior to its arrival in Beirut....it had some inbound Lebanese passengers.....

The evacuation is full steam now....the USS Nashville is taking on 1200 Americans, and the Orient Queen will take on a couple more loads, and more than 5 helos evacuating the sick and kids...

Australia's boat left with 600 people on the dock....and Canada will probably get helped out by the USA also.


1,182 posted on 07/19/2006 10:23:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Peach
You really don't want to get me started about our wonderful "ally" Mr. de VILLEpin. He was the Foreign Minister of France during the start of the Iraq war, and is a true cheese-eating appeasement monkey. I must have missed it when he got a promotion. Not that I'd really want to have known, though.
1,183 posted on 07/19/2006 10:24:46 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Tammy8

I Stated that France helped the USA during the Revolutionary War .

Is the Above A True Or A False Statement ???

History : TRUE STATEMENT

That DOES not mean I Like France .

The French police arrested & deported many Jewish people to their deaths during World War 2

History : True Statement

President Roosevelt On June 4 refused to help the OVER 950 Jewish refugees who were on board the U.S.S. St. Louis

History : True Statement

Most of the 950+ Jewish people on the St. Louis died in concentration camps .

History : True Statement

The Polish emissary Jan Karski told the USA Gov't the truth & warned the US Gov't about the Jewish re-settlement , concentration death camps.

History : True Statement

Jan Karski concluded in a STATEMENT that during World War 2 the Jewish people Were Abandoned by all world governments

History : True Statement


1,184 posted on 07/19/2006 10:25:56 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong & Rebel_yell2 Is not on vacation in Lebanon -)
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To: conservative in nyc

The book Treachery by Bill Gertz details how France has absolutely undermined the US and sold illegal equipment to Iraq for years.

Chirac is called Iraq's Chirac. LOL

If you're at all interested, I'll freepmail you what Gertz had to say about France tomorrow. But absolutely no problem if you're not interested :-)

And now I'm really headed off to dreamland.


1,185 posted on 07/19/2006 10:28:46 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Dittos


1,186 posted on 07/19/2006 10:29:11 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong & Rebel_yell2 Is not on vacation in Lebanon -)
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To: conservative in nyc

Dittos


1,187 posted on 07/19/2006 10:29:19 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong & Rebel_yell2 Is not on vacation in Lebanon -)
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To: RandallFlagg
We need to mobilize our Naval forces for this.

They have. CNN had a fairly long piece today on the LPD13 USS Nashville. It is on its way to pick up Americans needing to be evacuated.

My son was stationed aboard that ship for 4 years in the late 90s. It holds about 400-500 Marines and landing crafts, as well as a few hundred Sailors. The Marines are only on board at certain times. I believe they said the Marines are on board now along with the Sailors. The ship won't have much extra room for civilians; but, I'm sure they will crowd in as many as possible. The conditions will be miserable, especially for females. The bunks for the Sailors are built into the wall and stacked 3 high. It made me think of being in a casket. I spent one day on the USS Nashville for a family cruise and I was shocked to see their wasn't one soft surface to sit on anywhere except in officer quarters. Certainly not luxury accomodations.

1,188 posted on 07/19/2006 10:32:09 PM PDT by jamaly (I will never forget 9-11-01!!!!)
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To: jamaly

Ummm, I stated this on the 18th at 2:15 AM local (Colorado) time -BEFORE they mobilized.

Turns out, I may be clairvoyant. It happened shortly after I suggested it.

Now, about those Powerball numbers.....


1,189 posted on 07/19/2006 10:39:56 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Peach
Oh, hon. You've posted that simultaneous BikerBar was banned for arguing with a mod and maybe I'd get you banned for arguing with me. Which is it?

First don't call me hon. I am really not your hon. ok? I explained my thoughts on that poster's banning and exactly my opinion of what role you had in it. Go back and re-read if you did not comprehend.

You've posted that I didn't answer something that freeper asked but you seemingly can't find it because you haven't shown me which question that was.

What?? Please be more specific and I will be happy to answer- I think he was asking you about damning him or something along those lines- but if you will be more specific I will give you a better answer.

You've not admitted that BikerBar was caught in a few lies.

I must have missed it when you or who ever pointed out that posters lies- please provide proof. And remember even if you have proof- you need to explain to me what that has to do with me?

You've insisted I tell everyone on the thread that you're not a liar when I've already done that not once but twice (at least).

point me to where you said that- I must have missed it.

Then you get upset because I said "you all are entitled to your opinion..."

To me that is lumping me in with others. What others? "you all" is generally considered plural, "you people" is also considered plural. So who are "you all" and "you people"? I asked you that and you have not yet answered. I am answering your questions, please answer mine.

I could go on but you get the idea.

Please do go on and on, you accused me of not answering your questions- well ask all the questions you wish until you are satisfied that I have answered them all. Let's not leave any stone unturned here. I want to make sure you feel I have answered all your questions.

1,190 posted on 07/19/2006 10:43:18 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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To: jamaly
Oh, BTW....
My son was stationed aboard that ship for 4 years in the late 90s. It holds about 400-500 Marines and landing crafts, as well as a few hundred Sailors. The Marines are only on board at certain times. I believe they said the Marines are on board now along with the Sailors. The ship won't have much extra room for civilians; but, I'm sure they will crowd in as many as possible. The conditions will be miserable, especially for females. The bunks for the Sailors are built into the wall and stacked 3 high. It made me think of being in a casket. I spent one day on the USS Nashville for a family cruise and I was shocked to see their wasn't one soft surface to sit on anywhere except in officer quarters. Certainly not luxury accomodations.

Lookie here:

This was MY home for a few years in the '90s as well. I sure miss it.
Needless to say, I know a whole lot about Amphibs.
1,191 posted on 07/19/2006 10:43:31 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: DvdMom

What are you talking about? You have no idea what my knowledge of the Jewish people during WWII is or isn't. I will answer your history questions when I get a chance. Right now I am doing my best to answer Peach's questions. Please wait your turn. One test at a time, please. I usually save the easy chores for last, that is a lesson my father taught me.


1,192 posted on 07/19/2006 10:49:22 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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To: DvdMom

What is your point? That is what I am trying to find out.


1,193 posted on 07/19/2006 10:55:20 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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To: Peach; All

We can only assume the enemy would be pleased at this division caused indirectly or maybe directly by THEM when in real life - I like to think we FReepers would all be standing shoulder to shoulder against those who want us all to die. Until someone, in this case, the Beruit Freeper, is out of danger and free from the stress - everyone should take a deep breath and stand down. Focus, if you must, on that silly twit who was rescued and complaining to the media about the non-vegetarian sandwiches she was offered by the U S Navy. :o)


1,194 posted on 07/19/2006 10:58:58 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail")
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To: DvdMom; Peach

I am calling it a day. If either of you feels that I have not answered enough of your questions- please repost to me in the morning any and all questions you still wish to have answered. I will answer them as I have time tomorrow. Goodness knows I don't want either of you to be able to say I haven't thoroughly answered your questions on this thread.


1,195 posted on 07/19/2006 11:02:08 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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To: RandallFlagg
This was MY home for a few years in the '90s as well. I sure miss it.

You MISS IT????? I can't imagine that. My son sure doesn't miss it. He made a lot of good friends there; but, he definitely prefers shore duty and civilian life.

1,196 posted on 07/19/2006 11:16:57 PM PDT by jamaly (I will never forget 9-11-01!!!!)
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To: A CA Guy

No idea. Where I live we had 2 cars burnt in winter of 2005, culprits were two drunkl Irish students (who managed to set fire to their own car somehow).

How many cars or building are burnt a night in the USA ?


1,197 posted on 07/20/2006 12:23:29 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Atlantic Friend

Few, but France papers during the time Muslims were being themselves and burning cars called it back to NORMAL when it got back to 100 cars a night burned.

Seemed strange to me.


1,198 posted on 07/20/2006 12:25:40 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: daybreakcoming
I hope you are in a wonderful and safe part of the world.

I'm in Singapore. It's a beautiful, peaceful place with high security and most Americans move around here like there is no reason for worry, but...here is the US Travel Advisory Safety and Security section for Singapore

SAFETY AND SECURITY: Since December 2001, Singapore security services have detained more than three dozen members of Jemaah Islamiyah (JI), a terrorist organization with links to Al Qaeda. JI had planned attacks against government and private targets in Singapore associated with the United States, Singapore and other countries. In the aftermath of terrorist bombings in Indonesia in October 2002, August 2003 and September 2004, the Department of State is concerned that similar attacks may occur in other Southeast Asian nations because extremist groups present in Southeast Asia have demonstrated transnational capabilities to carry out attacks against locations where Westerners congregate. Terrorist groups do not distinguish between official and civilian targets. Americans residing in or traveling to Singapore and neighboring countries should therefore exercise particular caution, especially in locations where Americans and other Westerners live, congregate, shop or visit, including, but not limited to, hotels, clubs, bars, restaurants, shopping centers, identifiably Western businesses, housing compounds, transportation systems, places of worship, schools, tourist areas, resorts, beaches or public recreation events/venues. U.S. citizens should remain vigilant about their personal security.

The travel advisory was even more dire sounding when I first moved here and after the Bali bombings a lot of people were very scared, but most have gone back into a state of complacency now. We have Malaysia above us and Indonesia beside us. Both places are known to harbor and train terrorists. There is also a large Muslim population here. I think it would be crazy to think that something bad couldn't happen here. You can bet the bank that I'm registered with the US embassy.

1,199 posted on 07/20/2006 12:26:10 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Elyse

US Military has now evacuated thousands....more thouands by the day....MSM will now complain Cypress is overcrowded...its always something!


1,200 posted on 07/20/2006 12:27:33 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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