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7/18 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666987/posts ^ | 7/18/06 | me

Posted on 07/17/2006 10:49:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Monday, July 17, 2006


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: jhp

I'm reminded of an old, true, Hollywood story that involved a packager selling a network on the idea of doing a cop show involving the town's two reigning beauties. They both made appearances raving about how excited they were to be working together, and how much they liked each other, then each of them promptly instructed her agent to get her a better deal than the other one. A senior agent in the town's major agency had the uneviable task of constructing two deals that pencilled out exactly the same, but allowed each gal to claim she'd gotten the better deal.

That agent is the guy need to solve this crisis.


61 posted on 07/18/2006 1:20:33 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: mcmac22

Note: The following news brief is a quote:
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3277628,00.html

Report: Iranian Foreign Minister sent to Damascus fearing harsh Israeli response


The High Council of National Security in Iran decided in an emergency meeting to send the Foreign Minister, Manouchehr Mottaki, to Damascus. Such was reported by London-based newspaper al-Sharq al-Awsat.

The decision was made after warnings from a European that Israel is not going to halt her operations in Lebanon and that Prime Minister Olmert is determined to destroy Hizbullah infrastructure and leadership as well as Hamas leaders and the organizations tied to Tehran and Damascus. (Roi Nahmias)


(07.18.06, 09:57)


62 posted on 07/18/2006 1:23:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: ArmstedFragg

if that agent shows up and brokers this deal then we can stop fighting the Hez today and prepare for a stronger Hez tomorrow. I think the agent I would chose would be named Boeing.


63 posted on 07/18/2006 1:26:53 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (high compression hothead here)
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To: Cindy

That's interesting... the prior story said 'warning from a European country', this one says 'warning from a European'. The third version will probably be 'warning from a cab driver who looked like a European'. I'm not entirely convinced this 'European' isn't an Iranian invention.


64 posted on 07/18/2006 1:26:57 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Allegra
Israel isn't going to cease fire unconditionally, though. And they shouldn't.

Agree wholeheartedly on that one. And that's for all of us. The famed "Arab street" is not stepping up for Hezbollah, and many of the Gulf states and Egypt and Jordan would like to see Iran and its ally Syria taken down.

However, if the pinstriped crowd in the UN and the various European capitals allows Hezbollah to end up as "winner" ie to survive, then all bets are off. Saudi will then probaby try to come to some accommodation with Iran.

But there is no reason what so ever for this to happen. Saddam is no longer around to protect Syria's eastern flank, instead there are lots of US airborne forces, the G8 summit ended in a fiasco for the French (the terrorist enablers par preference), and Bolton should be able to stop any resolutions coming through the UN.

So as long as President Bush keep his cool - with the odd expletive interjected at opportune moments - this is a winning situation, and only a loss of nerves by Israel and/or the US can hand the terrorists a victory.

65 posted on 07/18/2006 1:27:08 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ArmstedFragg

One just never knows who the European could be.


66 posted on 07/18/2006 1:31:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: wildcatf4f3

I just don't see sufficient support there to do what really needs to be done to put an end to this stuff for a decade or so. But I should point out that jhp and I (mostly I) were speculating when the Gaza thing started that it was going to be limited and short-lived. And here we are. So I don't have any sooth-saying "chops".


67 posted on 07/18/2006 1:32:26 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ScaniaBoy
Israel had enough and will NOT cease fire without the return of soldiers and Hezbollah disbanding.
They had enough IMO.
68 posted on 07/18/2006 1:32:44 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Cindy

That said, there is the Arab European League. They probably are in touch with European countries.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1659022/posts?page=1031#1031


69 posted on 07/18/2006 1:33:43 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: BurbankKarl

Go get them, Israel. God is with you...

70 posted on 07/18/2006 1:43:59 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ScaniaBoy
So as long as President Bush keep his cool - with the odd expletive interjected at opportune moments - this is a winning situation, and only a loss of nerves by Israel and/or the US can hand the terrorists a victory.

Good analysis. I don't see Israel or the U.S. going "wobbly" on this.

I saw the famous "expletive" clip from the G8 luncheon several times yesterday and this morning and it still makes me laugh.

71 posted on 07/18/2006 1:44:50 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: Caipirabob

ROFL!!

72 posted on 07/18/2006 1:45:53 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: Allegra
Couldn't resist. Forgive me... : )
73 posted on 07/18/2006 1:47:00 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ScaniaBoy
More on Nazrallah:

Pilot who bombed Nasrallah's bunker: 'We will get them all'

"We will get them all in the end," Capt. A, one of the pilots who bombed Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah's underground bunker Sunday night, declared on Monday, minutes before boarding an F-16I fighter jet on his way to another sortie over Lebanon.

On Saturday night, the IAF bombed and destroyed Nasrallah's home and office in the neighborhood of Dahiya in southern Beirut. Dahiya, a high-ranking IDF officer told The Jerusalem Post on Monday, was a Hizbullah stronghold and only terrorists affiliated with Hizbullah were allowed in and out. On Monday, the IAF continued to strike an underground bunker in Dahiya which was believed to be Nasrallah's current hideout.

"It is a closed-in terror capital," the officer said of Dahiya. "Only card-carrying Hizbullah operatives are allowed inside after passing through an armed checkpoint."

Nasrallah, the officer said, had been holed up in the bunker ever since the IAF began bombing Beirut last week. "He has not seen the light of day," a senior Military Intelligence officer told the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Monday.

IAF fighter jets from Squadron 101 have been running daily bomb raids on the bunker, the main Hizbullah nerve center. Since two soldiers were kidnapped in a Hizbullah attack along the northern border last Wednesday, the squadron has bombed hundreds of targets from the Hizbullah bunker to bridges, Katyusha rocket launchers and weapons warehouses. The IAF has been using bunker-busting missiles in its air raids on the Hizbullah bunker.

"The public should know that the air force is working hard and achieving the goals it has set for itself even though Katyusha rockets are falling in Israel," Capt. A. said. "The public should be calm... we will get them all [Hizbullah leaders] in the end, wherever they may be, since no terrorist has immunity."

74 posted on 07/18/2006 1:49:52 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

AS regards the several hundred longer range missiles that Hezbollah has, obtained from Syria..Israel should announce that effective immediately, for every one that is launched, targeted at Israeli soil, Israel will respond with one bomb on Damascus..


75 posted on 07/18/2006 2:31:33 AM PDT by ken5050
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76 posted on 07/18/2006 2:51:08 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants to surrender. It's that simple.)
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To: Allegra; rebel_yell2

"This is disgraceful. You guys should already be out."

Today (Tuesday) is the sixth day since the start of Lebanon.

If the evac begins today, I'd consider that monumental, lightening-like speed by the U.S. gov.

In Cambodia, a U.S. evac never happened, despite Navy ships in the Sea Of Siam, and as the Aussies, French, Thais, Singaporeans, and others were being lifted out.

"That's OK. We're Americans. We're tough. We don't need no damned evac."


77 posted on 07/18/2006 3:35:27 AM PDT by angkor
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To: jhp

"Syria you are going to get hit if you don't call of your Hizbullah dogs"

The rhetoric against Syria is mounting. Hopefully something will come of it.

It's really time to end this nonsense, otherwise it'll turn into same old, same old.


78 posted on 07/18/2006 3:37:53 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Allegra; ScaniaBoy; BurbankKarl

"Propaganda, psy-op, wishful thinking, or info from well connected sources?"

All of the above. Fog of war. No one knows what's true, or what's really happening.


79 posted on 07/18/2006 3:41:16 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor; rebel_yell2
Rebel Yell2 will get out and then a ceasefire will occur the next day. Watch.

That guy Murphy is always messing around in these things.

80 posted on 07/18/2006 3:43:02 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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